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Does this look like a good deal?
Old 09-12-2011, 10:34 PM   #21
 
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larger tanks are actually easier, minus alittle larger water change but add in the extra cost of everything lol. more rock, more sand, bigger skimmer, more more more.

on a serious note, if this were my first saltwater tank and i was to pick a tank, i would go with the 40 breeder OR 75 gallon non-reef ready.

why non-reef ready? well i dont like the HUGE size of the overflows a reef ready tank comes with and some of them even have 2 of these huge overflows taking up valuable tank space. personally going with glassholes overflows for the rest of my life.

a quiet sump is very do-able. if you go with a small return pump and carefully select a skimmer you wouldnt hear much under the stand with its doors closed. my last tank was in my bedroom... a 5 foot long 90 and it wasnt the tank you heard, it was the external skimmer sitting next to it sucking air...
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:38 PM   #22
 
Please forgive me, but what does non reef ready actually mean? I feel like I'm missing something.
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:46 PM   #23
 
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Please forgive me, but what does non reef ready actually mean? I feel like I'm missing something.
Reef ready tanks already have holes drilled in them for overflow. Non reef ready tanks do not.
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:50 PM   #24
 
OH yes yes I know what you're talking about. Thank you! Petco is having a $1/gallon sale on plain tanks. so $40 for a 40 gallon or $75 for a 75 so I could get a tank there. Still not sure if I want the 40 or 75 though. In a 75 I would obviously have a few more fish. Would that increase the chances of fish aggression, even if it is properly stocked, just because there are more fish in contact with eachother?
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:59 PM   #25
 
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OH yes yes I know what you're talking about. Thank you! Petco is having a $1/gallon sale on plain tanks. so $40 for a 40 gallon or $75 for a 75 so I could get a tank there. Still not sure if I want the 40 or 75 though. In a 75 I would obviously have a few more fish. Would that increase the chances of fish aggression, even if it is properly stocked, just because there are more fish in contact with eachother?
Fish will be fish, you just never know. If properly stocked you should not have any issues. You might have one or 2 scuffles, but that happens.
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:00 PM   #26
 
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OH yes yes I know what you're talking about. Thank you! Petco is having a $1/gallon sale on plain tanks. so $40 for a 40 gallon or $75 for a 75 so I could get a tank there. Still not sure if I want the 40 or 75 though. In a 75 I would obviously have a few more fish. Would that increase the chances of fish aggression, even if it is properly stocked, just because there are more fish in contact with eachother?
i wouldnt say you'd have much aggresion if it is properly stocked. in pretty much all tanks fish will develop a pecking order.

hate to break news but i believe their sale is only up to 55 gallon size, but that does include the 40.
a 75 would allow a tang, i know those are a big attraction lol
its also going to come down to what fish gets added when as you cant add the fish meant to be added last, first. they are going to harass any new tank additions. this is why creating a list of everything you could ever want in the tank from the beggining. this does not mean it will all be added then, but you'll have a guideline of whats going in and hopefully have them all researched. this is the best method IMO and sure beats going to the fish store and saying thats a pretty fish, buying it, bringing it home and then having the lionfish you bought yesterday eat it. ( just an example )
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:08 PM   #27
 
Ah darn! Your right! Checked the website and it says up to 55 I know tangs are pretty, but after doing some research on them, I don't think I'm ready for one yet. From the ones I would like, they are some what aggressive and more sensitive than I am comfortable with. When I decide on what size tank I would like my stocking list will be more complete. I have a short scribble of a few fish I would like for a 40. I used the 1 fish from group A and 1 species from group B/ 15gals and LiveAquaria's website to pick fish. Feel free to criticize!

Flame Hawkfish
Bicolor Angelfish
pair of O. Clownfish
Yellow Watchman Goby
Royal Gramma Basslet
Electric Blue Hermit Crab
Lettuce Sea Slug
Red or Marbled Sea Star

A very tentative stocking list
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:17 PM   #28
 
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the angel will nip future corals. a flame or coral beauty would be a safer choice but their eating habbits are not promised. they can also turn coral hungry randomly. just a consideration.

i personally do not like any crabs in my tanks, just because they eat what they get their claws on ( if i find one, into the refugium of my sump it goes )
the no crab policy also goes for hermit crabs. i like snails, a nice mixture of snails. hermits seem to love ripping snails from their shells just to find out they dont even want that shell. its not as drastic as it sounds, but it does happen. snails can be $1-2 each and i just cant have that happening.

i like the look of lettuce sea slugs myself, but they wont look the same when they crawl into a powerhead. food supply can also become an issue esp. with some of the larger species.

i am impressed and you are on a solid track.
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Old 09-12-2011, 11:34 PM   #29
 
Thank you! Yea, I'm still tentative about the angel. From what I understand, they all can be destructive to coral. What I think I would do is see if my LFS has a return/exchange policy so that I could take the fish home, quarentine it, and then place it in my tank for a week or two and if it does bother the corals, maybe exchange it for a fish of equal value. Probably a long shot lol but it's worth asking. And yea I thought the same thing about crabs too, but on LiveAquaria is stated that this is one of the only coral/reef friendly crabs. I wouldnt like it snagging my snails though.. Do you think if I purchased a few extra shells and placed them around the tank it would choose those over stealing them? I'm not a big crab fan in general, but this little guy is so pretty! And it's rated as a beginner invert - deff what I need :)

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Old 09-12-2011, 11:47 PM   #30
 
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i believe its the scarlet hermits that are the best cleaners if memory serves me right. even with extra shells around the tank they will take your snails shell, and a snail without a shell is a dead snail. id assume they eat them out? regardless, it happens, again not as dramatic as it sounds, but it happens.

you cant always trust what you read. live aquaria is a good "guideline" but i suggest taking that research farther. compare it to sites like wikipedia AND other sites and see what they say, and/or what other reefers are saying. Google is such an overlooked powerful tool that is taken for granted. with your collection of information, then use your best judgement.
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