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Old 11-02-2010, 07:04 PM   #11
 
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Although the first one looks the same I drew it with more detail. All I need to do now is learn more about how the HOB overflows work and the drilled ones too.(I know you Bear know about HOB since you have one if I recall correctly). The second shows the 10 gallon plan. For the 20 gallon I was planning for 20lb of LR and a 6500k light for Macro algae. I also need to know a good Return pump for ~$100 maybe under, and some overflow systems(maybe a DIY if it is cheaper). I have basically everything else covered in my head...until stocking the 55 gallon(if I can complete this design with confidence it will be up fairly soon just have to finish up the 10 gallon and write a paper).

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Old 11-03-2010, 08:07 PM   #12
 
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Was talking to some people changed my mind...again.
So it was brought up my design has to be PERFECT or it will flood. SO I have a new design that I need some advice on.
Here is the basic overview of what it will be


Here is the sump


And here is the link to the overflow I was thinking about getting for both
http://www.aquatraders.com/Continuou...00-p/44011.htm

Thoughts would be great, I also need return pump ideas

thanks
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:22 PM   #13
 
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ok this is one you would use instead of drilling....... they are ok but prone to failure from all i have read with little safety back up... check these out




making one of these will give you the ability to add more tubes over the wall so that you have time if one fails....
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:53 PM   #14
 
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I think that the one I posted would be easier then those and more reliable. and it is a HOB not a drilled.

What I really need to figure out is water level in the sump. Any Ideas? I'll probably do the math later but what should it be at if the power goes out? Remembering there is a DF and a DT emptying into it.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:56 PM   #15
 
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when you first plumb it up ... fill all but the sump... then fill sump to 50% and test it running... once pipes filled add a little more (leaving room for back flow) then power out test it... this will be the easiest way to figure it....
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:58 PM   #16
 
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I think that the one I posted would be easier then those and more reliable. and it is a HOB not a drilled.
i almost forgot yes easier but is it safer? this is a risk you must be ready for should it fail... many reefers go with drilled just to avoid this very issue ... but it really is your choice and it may never go bad.. i always try to plane for the worst so that i can cut back the potential....
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:02 PM   #17
 
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OK I will use this design and start to figure out all the tubing and all that. All I needed was for 2 people to say it is ok to feel confident and now I have 3 people. Feels good, thanks. Just need a return pump in mind.
So I will start trying to get the 10 gallon the right light then focus on this project.
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Old 11-04-2010, 07:37 AM   #18
 
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returns are really a mater of preferance.... i like the water from my sump to flow rather slowly so that it gets skimmed more for better waste removal... i just use the $20 petco job and it seems to do just fine... others have gone with Maxijets and Rio's ...
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Old 11-04-2010, 01:47 PM   #19
 
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Ya I might go RIO unless I can find a reliable cheaper model with 700GPH(at up to a height of 4 feet it will be traveling s bit of distance).
So a pump like this? It might need to be a bit more powerful since it is only rated 782GPH for going no where and after 3 feet it is under what I would need.
Taam Rio (Rio+) Powerhead/Pump

Thanks for the help. Once I get a little bit of cash and finish up a couple of other projects I have this will start getting set up.

Also should I have an ATO system for this or what should I do with that? Where will the evaporation be in the tank?
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:52 PM   #20
 
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OK I have asked a few people about it. I will not be doing an ATO for a little while as I feel uncomfortable making one. But was told the pump is good...so unless someone says otherwise it is the plan.

Although I will hopefully be ordering these parts in around a month and then the extra 20 gallon I need.

Then after that I will start saving for 6lb of LR To start the fuge and the DT and two 20lb bags of Live sand. Then add more every couple of weeks I get the $$$ to add.

Is it possible to use live sand that has expired if I wash it?

Cross your fingers and pray that I can do it all

Now the work begins for $80...and to get writing.
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