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post #221 of 233 Old 03-24-2010, 02:27 PM Thread Starter
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I kinda figured someone would tell me just that. Basically the reason why I posted it. My LFS claims it will be fine so I figured I would get a second opinion. She has been successfully keeping reef tanks for 20+ years and her tanks are indeed impressive, but I tend to not trust alot of what she tells me because it goes against most everything that Ive read on the forums and in the one marine book Ive been reading off and on.

I told the wife this as well, about waiting 6 months before introducing a RBTA, but since the LFS owner told her otherwise I feel its going to be inevitable that there is one in there before then but we will see. I know she doesnt want to see an animal die but one can only take so much misinformation before they decide to just do what they want, lol. Ill still try and convince her the tank isnt ready, but this is something I deal with on a week to week basis. I dont want it to come down to a death of a livestock but Ill be honest, Im about done trying to explain things. Her thoughts are always 'everything else is fine, and the LFS said it would be ok'....

Ill keep everyone posted as well as do a 2 gallon water change tonight. Oh, forgot I didnt post the Calc and Alk test results earlier so here they are, keep in mind, Im 3 days shy of 3 weeks since doing a water change.

Calcium - 420 ppm
Alkalinity - 10 dKH

Also, they seem to be pretty much dropping evenly right? So if they are still low after the water change it would be safe to supplement both?

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1 Pink-Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Blood Red Fire Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
10 Astrea Snails
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post #222 of 233 Old 03-24-2010, 11:26 PM
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ask your wife how cool it would be to NOT see the RBTA die and come home after work to a tank full of dead livestock.
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post #223 of 233 Old 03-28-2010, 03:58 PM Thread Starter
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I hear ya OF2F. We are waiting on one for now...

Okay now Ive got some questions. Ive got a couple different types of algae growing and got worried so I ran a full line of tests and here at the results

Temp - 79F
Salinity - 1.025
PH - 8.3

Nitrates - 5 ppm
Phosphate - 0 ppm
Calcium - 420 ppm
Alkalinity - 10 dKH

So my water change didnt do anything for calcium and Alkalinity but everything else seems to be just fine.

Maybe the algae blooms are just normal? Not enough CUC?

Ive got my skimmer dialed in now so that I get a full cup every two days of skimmate but its wet and requires me to top off twice daily now. The skimmate is nice and dirty not fairly clear like when I adjust it all the way down. I would like to adjust it more so that it doesnt remove as much water but Im not sure which way is the most efficient (most DOC's/least water, or more water but still lots of DOCs)?

The recommended dose of each bottle of BIonic for my size tank is 5 ml, would it be ok to supplement 4 ml of each now?

Here are some pictures of the algae





Thanks in advance. -Mike

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1 Banggai Cardinalfish
1 Pink-Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Blood Red Fire Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
10 Astrea Snails
10 Nassarius Snails

Flower Leather
Neon Green Capnella
Green Star Polyps
3 Mushrooms - Red/Blue/Green Stripe
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Hi mike, I got a lot of algae when i was buffering for alkalinity at sand level, after i stopped buffering and left it to settle for a week it all went away think its to do with unbalance levels in the tank when you buffer. colin

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Hi mike, I got a lot of algae when i was buffering for alkalinity at sand level, after i stopped buffering and left it to settle for a week it all went away think its to do with unbalance levels in the tank when you buffer. colin
I have yet to buffer anything. But its about time to need to do so.

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1 Banggai Cardinalfish
1 Pink-Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Blood Red Fire Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
10 Astrea Snails
10 Nassarius Snails

Flower Leather
Neon Green Capnella
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The second and third pictures are unfortunately cyno-bacteria. The red slime is a byproduct of the actual bacteria that live on the sand and rocks. I was/am battling some in my tanks. The best way to get rid of it is increasing the flow on the affected areas and decreasing the amount of extra food in the tank. For my 12G I bought another power head and that solved my problems and now it is gone. It sucks because soon it will cover the tank if you don’t take any action.

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post #227 of 233 Old 03-28-2010, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the info Highland lake13! I will point a powerhead at it in the morning. There really isnt any uneated food left after feeding. Ive been paying close attention to it and only feed every other day. Ill look into another powerhead as well but will just move one tomorrow for the time being. Cheers, -Mike.

PS - anyone with info on using the BIonic please chime in and let me know if its ok to add, info a few posts up.

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[29G Reef]
2 False Percula Clownfish
1 Banggai Cardinalfish
1 Pink-Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Blood Red Fire Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
10 Astrea Snails
10 Nassarius Snails

Flower Leather
Neon Green Capnella
Green Star Polyps
3 Mushrooms - Red/Blue/Green Stripe
4 Florida Ricordia
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post #228 of 233 Old 03-28-2010, 09:13 PM Thread Starter
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Well I didnt want to wait. I like to take action quickly when I know what Im dealing with. So I researched cyanobacteria and learned some things. Heres my plan of action. Reduce lighting temporarily to 8hrs a day and Ive got a powerhead aimed at it. I know now that my nitrates may have been higher before the algae showed up. Its spreading rather quickly so we will see if these changes help to control it. I will also be doing weekly 5 gal water changes from now on.

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[29G Reef]
2 False Percula Clownfish
1 Banggai Cardinalfish
1 Pink-Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Blood Red Fire Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
10 Astrea Snails
10 Nassarius Snails

Flower Leather
Neon Green Capnella
Green Star Polyps
3 Mushrooms - Red/Blue/Green Stripe
4 Florida Ricordia
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post #229 of 233 Old 03-28-2010, 11:19 PM
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Wow that was so quick! Good work on the research, and really good job on taking action quickly. The good thing about cyano-bacteria is that is doesn't attack/hurt the corals as long as it is taken care of quickly. Keep it up!

~Cam
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post #230 of 233 Old 03-29-2010, 08:45 AM Thread Starter
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Ugh the more I read about it the more it worries me! I would elimate my lighting all togeather for a couple weeks but Im sure that would elimate my corals as well as the bacteria. Im going to aim for another 5 gallon water change today to help the situation as well as remove as much of it from the tank as I can. Now I see the reason for water changes! Ill keep everyone posted.

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[29G Reef]
2 False Percula Clownfish
1 Banggai Cardinalfish
1 Pink-Spotted Watchman Goby
1 Blood Red Fire Shrimp
1 Emerald Crab
10 Astrea Snails
10 Nassarius Snails

Flower Leather
Neon Green Capnella
Green Star Polyps
3 Mushrooms - Red/Blue/Green Stripe
4 Florida Ricordia
Candy Apple Zoanthids
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