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Old 02-16-2010, 06:29 PM   #91
 
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At least that goes to show you how good my LFS is. At least the owner cares about a persons success and well being of the livestock enough to not sell it to you until they believe the tank is truly ready to sustain the livestock. So I guess for the next two weeks all Ive got to look at is 3 snails and a billion copepods.
I'm impressed with your LFS. Good for them to care as much as they do.

If you need something to look at, I can post pictures daily.
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Old 02-16-2010, 07:00 PM   #92
 
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So what are you waiting for? lol Yeah its a one person place the store I go to. The owners name is Penny. She has 60+ tanks and does a great job. I have 3 Astrea snails, one who is a complete champ and works NONSTOP, and two that arent nearly as strong and need to be rescued daily from the sandbed. She seems to think they are weak because my tank isnt ready... I would agree with her if it was affecting all of the snails but its not. But I not going to argue with her because its definately not going to hurt anything by letting my tank mature more before adding anymore livestock.

Ive got coraline algea growth on the rocks I purchased last Friday. So Im still waiting patiently and cant wait for my orders to come in. In the meantime I satisfy myself with the pictures on here and staring at my tank alot.

You know the more I think about it the more fine I am waiting. Ive noticed that the size of the copepods are much bigger now and I have an even greater population than before. There are also many other small organisms I see. I was checking out the copepods yesterday with my 60-100x pocket microscope from Radio Shack, that was pretty darn cool! So Im still hanging tough. If I could pass up those four dollar damsels today then I will do right by my tank and wait into its ready.

The biggest thing to me is how much I respect the owner of my LFS and how much she cares about the success of her customers tanks. I trust her stock. Ive been viewing her tanks weekly and they are in amazing shape. All of her corals are doing awesome and fish look super healthy. You wont find a single dead fish in her 60+ tanks. Petco was disgusting. Its ashame there are places out there like that. While I was there I watched a lady who knew nothing of fish purchase a 16 gallon bowfront tank and $80 worth of fish. I politely informed her that the tank was going to be overstocked, the fish werent compatible, and that the tank needed to cycle properly or the fish would all die. She bought them anyway because the store employee said it would be fine. Like I said, disgusting.

Im really plenty happy with what is taking place anyway, but you know as well as I do it would be better if there were some pretty fish and inverts in the tank to look at. In the meantime Im getting everything figured out over here. Like how much water to add daily/every couple of days to maintain 1.024-1.025 salinity. Ive got a logbook I write down water parameters on daily/everytime I test. Even though there arent any fish its still great watching the tank mature.

Sorry for the long winded post. Im going to stay away from the LFS this week because its just to difficult to look at everything I want knowing I cant get it yet, lol. So once again, thats if for now. Ill keep everyone posted.
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:19 AM   #93
 
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In about 4 hours or so UPS should land with my protein skimmer as well as my API Reef Master test kit and BIonic. My question is when I have the skimmer all hooked up and running would it be ok to remove the HOB filter Ive had running empty all along?

I got the glass top yesterday and a couple other supplys.

I assume the light will be here early next week.

2 more weeks and I can add some more of my CUC, w00t! Its finally starting to come together. I also plan to purchase a 35GPD Kent Marine RO unit within these next 2 weeks. And my box of salt should be here today or tomorrow as well. Anyone else using this, http://www.marinedepot.com/Kent_Mari...ROROTS-vi.html This is the one my LFS uses and sells.

Regarding the QT tank, when should I fill it with saltwater and let it run? Also when I fill it with saltwater and allow it to run should I put the sponge in the filter after it has ran for 24 hours or what? Im getting excited now! I already want a larger tank but dont plan on doing that now until we are thinking about a larger, more permanent home.

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Old 02-18-2010, 07:54 PM   #94
 
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Alright, some new supplies arrived today. The skimmer and prefilter box are hooked up and running, just waiting for it to break in now. I like the test results of the API's calcium test kit much better! Okay here are the test results from today,

Temp - 77.2F
Salinity - 1.025
PH - 8.0

Ammonia - 0.25 ppm
Nitrite - 0.1 ppm
Nitrate - 10 ppm
Alkalinity - 9 dKH
Calcium - 440 ppm
Phosphate 0.5 ppm

So the Calcium looks ok, alk isnt terrible but could be a bit higher and I know nothing about phosphate so any info there would be good. Im going to go do a search on it when I finish the post. I feel personally that test results are easier to read with the API's test kit versus the Red Sea kits so I might switch to API for the other stuff as well. Right now though an RO system is priority.

Hopefully the salt will be here tomorrow and the light should be in sometime next week. Everything is starting to come together now! 2 more weeks and I will be adding some more of the CUC and everything tests good for a week after that I will probably add a coral or two to the aquarium. Coraline algae is still beginning to cover all the rocks will more each day.

I was actually surprised how large the skimmer was and the surface prefilter box. I had to move some rock in order to be able to put it in. The prefilter box is kind of an eyesore in such a small tank so I was wondering about buying a couple more pounds of cured live rock and beating on it with a hammer to make a bunch of smaller pieces to glue to the prefilter box with aquarium silicone. Any opinions on this?

But other than that the tank is coming along nicely. I dont know about the fate of one of the snails yet. It hasnt moved most of the day but has been a slow mover all along so it might not have made it. The strong one still cleans like a madman, lol. I actually watched him earlier when I was doing the tests go OVER another snail that was in his way! Funny stuff. He does laps around the aquarium all day long, what a champ. The other snail hasnt had to be picked up today but hasnt moved around alot either. Better than recovering it a couple times a day from the sandbed though. Ill keep an eye on the one in question and if there is no life out of it by tomorrow AM I will remove it from the tank.

Ill keep everyone posted. The RO filter in the previous post is the one I plan to purchase unless someone has information on a better, similarly priced unit. Take care folks.
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Old 02-19-2010, 04:40 PM   #95
 
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There might be a change in plans here now. The light I ordered, Current USA satellite 2x65W PC was ordered from Global Aquaria. Well I got my order confirmation when I placed the order but I havent heard from them since even though I have tried to contact them via phone and email numerous times. After considering that something may be wrong I did a search and read a report of one other person having a similar issue on Reef Sanctuary forum. All other reports I read seemed positive regarding customer support and prices of the products. So at this point I dont know what to think.

I will give it until next Friday to hear from them before I go to my bank to see about getting my money returned to me. If this doesnt work out then I think I am going to change the plans and do a FOWLR tank for the time being and save my money for proper lighting for a 4' tank in the future. Its not what I had originally intended to do but after seeing how much fun this has become I already want to upgrade and if I do a 30" light wouldnt be of much use for me. So like I said, if they contact me and I receive the light then I will continue with what I started, if not I will go to my bank to recover the money and put the $155 towards a better light that will fit a 4' tank.

Once again Ill keep you all posted.

BTW, the salt came in today. The only thing being waited on is the light which is somehow doubt I will receive and for the tank to mature further before adding any livestock. Until I know more I would not recommend anyone do business with Global Aquaria: One Stop Shopping for Custom Aquariums and Synthetic Coral
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Old 02-19-2010, 05:01 PM   #96
 
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While I was there I watched a lady who knew nothing of fish purchase a 16 gallon bowfront tank and $80 worth of fish. I politely informed her that the tank was going to be overstocked, the fish werent compatible, and that the tank needed to cycle properly or the fish would all die. She bought them anyway because the store employee said it would be fine. Like I said, disgusting.
I have had good luck over the years using this technique, with a slight modification. I say "if things don't work out" the way the LFS is telling the customer, then you can find me here at this web site and I'm happy to help. TropicalFishKeeping.com is easy to remember!
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Old 02-19-2010, 06:57 PM   #97
 
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I have a same 29 gallons as u convert from freshwater tank been running 2 weeks
using 30lb aragonite sand, 10lb live rock + 25 lb macro dry rock (cycled)
upgraded 2x24 T5 HO light and Aquac Remora skimmer added Koralia 1
i bring my water sample to LFS, they say i'm safe adding fish
i still worry because i test myself still have low nitrite so they recommend me a bottle of instantly cycles aquariums and PH buffer
without patience i end up buy a pair of percula clownfish and flakes food
my CUC (20 Cerith 10 Nassarius 10 Nerite) arrived yesterday

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Old 02-20-2010, 06:29 AM   #98
 
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I have a same 29 gallons as u convert from freshwater tank been running 2 weeks
using 30lb aragonite sand, 10lb live rock + 25 lb macro dry rock (cycled)
upgraded 2x24 T5 HO light and Aquac Remora skimmer added Koralia 1
i bring my water sample to LFS, they say i'm safe adding fish
i still worry because i test myself still have low nitrite so they recommend me a bottle of instantly cycles aquariums and PH buffer
without patience i end up buy a pair of percula clownfish and flakes food
my CUC (20 Cerith 10 Nassarius 10 Nerite) arrived yesterday


Good luck! Not trying to be rude here but I just cant see your tank being cycled after only two weeks with just 10lbs of live rock. I suppose its possible but I would be very nervous if it were me. Ive had mine running for 3 weeks with CURED live rock and I still havent hit 0,0,0 yet. Tank looks nice though.
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Old 02-20-2010, 11:19 AM   #99
 
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Im beginning to question how well the pump is working on the protein skimmer. I got the Maxi-jet 1200 with mine and Ill be honest, I expected alot more water to be coming out of the overflow/return thingamabob. There arent very many microbubbles either but I do know it requires a break in period. Hopefully things will look different in a week or two but right now Im thinking the pump might not be working properly. My LFS carries the Maxi-Jet line so I can pick one up for $30 if this is indeed the case. There isnt enough water being pumped to even cover the entire return, it just flows out of the right hand side of it. But I will wait patiently for it to break in and start collecting some skimmate.

No idea what will happen in regards to my light, I still have yet to hear from back from the company Global Aquaria. Time will tell. I found another thread about them and others had the same problem but did eventually get their product one day. So hopefully it will still come in sometime next week. Ive got 10 gallons of saltwater currently mixing/warming up to temp and will be doing a water change tomorrow so I can do another vacuum of the sandbed. I dont know if its detritus or a small diatom bloom.

Kinda looks like a algae bloom but it isnt covering everything like a diatom bloom normally does. Ive still got one weak snail but the other 2 are nice and active. I cant believe how tough the one original strong one is. Last night he was cleaning near the other strong snail and that one attached to him and yet he continue to haul that snail all over the tank cleaning. It was pretty cool. One barely holds himself to the tank and that one can haul two of them around like its nothing, lol.
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Old 02-20-2010, 04:57 PM   #100
 
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Mike,

Can you post some pictures of that protein skimmer? I can't really understand what you are trying to describe.

Stanely,

I am going to copy your post into a new thread for discussion, so that we do not take over Mikes running thread. The new thread is located here: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/s...on-tank-37661/
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