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Building our 75G reef...and updates
Old 08-13-2010, 09:17 AM   #11
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Definitely on it reef. You are correct, those were the ones they showed me. Will go to the ones you told me about. As fir the sump...I'm really pulling the hair out of my head with that one. I do have a 20 gallon tank but I have zero confidence in my skill right now. I think I rather spend(or waste good money into a ready to go one. I'm pasting the links you've given me and going to research where to get the right now. I'll post links.
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:28 AM   #12
Noooo not the hair! lol what dimensions is the 20 gal tank? ttake a good look at how i use a diy filter sock on my sump. i sew together a sock and used clothes pin to clip it on my sump. other than that i have a skimmer then liverocks in it. you probably dont even need baffles in the thing if you lower the return pump and rely on the powerheads in the tank to do the water movement.
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:31 PM   #13
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I'm sure that once I start up and understand sumps I will probably kick myself for not putting my own dump together. I honestly rather get one that's already ready to go because I think it will take me some time to even understand how they completely function.
What size should I be looking for? Should I be looking for a sump before a skimmer? Or a skimmer then a sump as I would have to make sure it fit?
You mentioned 2 powerheads for the tank, how do you determine the GPH for a reef? Are there specials features that make certain powerheads better than others? Sumps? Skimmers?

Also...stupid question...but what is a RODIN system?
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Old 08-13-2010, 02:38 PM   #14
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Reef, you had also mentioned 2 powerheads? Is it for better flow in the tank?
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:33 PM   #15
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as for t5s i personally like the icecap retrofits but only if you have a canopy to mount them in.. it also involves another DIY project.

as for filter socks and having to much live rock in a sump, i feel this is the same concept as having a filter floss/bio balls. the rock in a sump is a slow flowing area so debris is allowed to catch, build up and then break down into nitrates/phosphates.. and the sock needs to be cleaned constant, just like filter floss would. they do "polish" the water though, as long as you dont mind frequent cleaning of them.

its pretty easy to silicon baffles into a used tank.. they wouldnt even need to be 100% water tight ( as long as the actual tank is ) although i make mine with a complete seal. its also pretty easy how they work too. water goes in, flows into area with skimmer, flows over then under then over ( bubble trap ) before going up the return pump. the bubble trap keeps bubbles from entering the display. you could also add a refugium to the sump to, which i personally would.
i did
inlet/ refugium | bubble trap| return pump | bubble trap | skimmer/ inlet
so i had 2 inlets and the return pump in the center. the refugium sides inlet goes into a small box to prevent the deep sand bed from being disturbed.
the bigger the sump the better. this means more water volume for your tank. i had a 46 bowfront w a 40 breeder sump once. granted i also knew i was upgrading the display tank at the time of constructing a 40 breeder sump, but it made the 46 run so much smoother having double its volume. ofcourse you dont need a sump this size but bigger is better when it comes to sumps. keep in mind your skimmer, carbon/phosban reactors, heater(s), and possibly a return pump will be inside the sump. you may also want a refugium section with sand and a macro algae ( which i suggest chaeto )

the hydor K powerheads are pretty good IMO. if you like the look of these, want to spend alittle more money and get something alittle better, look into tunzes. if you want to spend even more money you can go with a vortech but these cost an arm and 2 legs plus they cant be angeled and only "aim" straight. ive also heard people say they're noisy if not lined up straight but they do look pretty cool. honestly the hydors would fit you perfectly, which i suggest. 2 is ideal, one on either end of the tank. back when i had the 46 bowfront, which was a mixed reef i had a mag9 on the return pump from the sump, 2 hydor K #2s and 1 or 2 #4s going. thats alot of flow but it worked well for me. id say 2 #4s would make a good start for you.

a RO/DI system is a reverse osmosis filter that removes chlorine from the water. a TDS ( total disolved solids ) meter will tell you how filtered it is, and the closer to ( if not ) 0 the better.
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:58 PM   #16
a sump or skimmer doesn't really matter which one you get first but just make sure that the skimmer of choice can fit into the sump of choice. the sump also needs to fit under the stand too. I personally recommend a skimmer that is at least 2 times bigger than your tank. for example you have a 75 gal tank, i'd recommend a skimmer that is rated for 150 gallons. The RO/DI is a water filter that you use to clean the water that comes out of your home plumbing . That water is what is used to make new saltwater and for freshwater topoff. you can also drink the water coming out of the RO but before the DI section. That water coming out of the DI is typically Chemist grade H2O and nothing else. There should be no phosphates, chlorine, or any other impurities in the water after the RO/DI.

I personally have live rocks in my sump and have no issues as far as phosphate or anything else. to me it just another place to put rocks in the water because i don't like too much rocks in the display. if you are concerned about debris then throw a power head in there along with the rocks.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:24 PM   #17
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Powerhead and other equipment

Alright, so I decided to buy the rest of the stuff now while I can. It looks like we are going to be moving a little sooner than originally planned. That means off shopping we go!

So now it comes down to WHAT DO I NEED? I need to find something that's either local to me, or within Canada(for online orders). I realized Big Al's has an online website for some equipment.

Taking a look at the Koralia powerheads and not seeing the model I was suggested to get. Can you guys take a look and tell me what you would recommend for my tank? I really like the looks of them over some of the ones I have seen online. I'm not sure how much flow I should be looking for tho.

Now for the skimmer, the one I was recommended has absolutely fantastic skimmer and I should have any problems ordering it online(the ones online really seem to be cheap and suck), even with the S/H fee so I am willing to do that. The sump on the other hand...I contacted the online company I found and saw how much it would cost to ship(now I knew it was going to be to much, but thought I would ask). Again, if anyone local to CANADA who's bought a good sump either online or in stores, is willing to pm me, it would be really help.

I just put my list together of everything I needed and yep as expected being an american dealer, they are charging me through the nose for shipping.

Here is the only other online store we have here:



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Old 08-15-2010, 09:45 PM   #18
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The guy from the store had also added a heater? do you guys think I need to get one? this is the one he quoted me for:

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Old 08-15-2010, 10:10 PM   #19
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Im sorry one more post. Im seeing a few more things on the list that I don't know what it's there for. If you guys can take a look?

Example, what is a Hydrome? jager heater? rio hyperflow? is that supposed to be the pump?
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Old 08-15-2010, 10:18 PM   #20
IMO, everything you posted above looks fine and will allow you to keep just about anything. That skimmer, lights, RO/DI, and powerheads can do the job. Are they the best products? no but they can do the job. The only question is on the pump. i would go with this one instead. it's only 80 watts instead of 120 watts and this pump is considered to be one of the better pumps on the market and imo its enough turnover from tank to sump. sometimes if the pump is too big you will have microbubbles and not be able to stop them from returning to your display tank.
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