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Old 12-19-2009, 01:36 PM   #11
 
Are you planning on getting the 125 model?
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:57 PM   #12
 
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Are you planning on getting the 125 model?
not anymore. i will be getting a 55 model
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Old 12-19-2009, 09:36 PM   #13
 
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Coralife Super Skimmer Needle Wheel
is this okay for a 75 gallon?
I'm not a big fan of this skimmer for a 75 gallon tank. I just feel like the skimmer is by far the most important piece of equipment you will purchase, and when it comes to larger tanks you should really consider something nicer.

That being said, the Coralife Super Skimmer rated for a 125 would probably be an acceptable starting place for a 75 reef. But man, if you can find an extra $100 somewhere in this project, spending it on a skimmer upgrade would be ideal.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:56 AM   #14
 
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I'm not a big fan of this skimmer for a 75 gallon tank. I just feel like the skimmer is by far the most important piece of equipment you will purchase, and when it comes to larger tanks you should really consider something nicer.

That being said, the Coralife Super Skimmer rated for a 125 would probably be an acceptable starting place for a 75 reef. But man, if you can find an extra $100 somewhere in this project, spending it on a skimmer upgrade would be ideal.
i can find a little extra money defiantly if its for the skimmer. once i get all my equipment can i post pictures and let you give me a walk through of how you would do it? you seem to be the most popular around here pasfur, i have bee n reading a lot about you and agree on just about everything you say.
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Old 12-20-2009, 12:25 PM   #15
 
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I'm happy to help. We have a good overall team here, I believe. We have a number of us with considerable experience. Posting pictures of your equipment before you start the setup would really help us all to give some input.

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i have bee n reading a lot about you and agree on just about everything you say.
What is it you disagree with?
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Old 12-20-2009, 02:16 PM   #16
 
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I'm happy to help. We have a good overall team here, I believe. We have a number of us with considerable experience. Posting pictures of your equipment before you start the setup would really help us all to give some input.



What is it you disagree with?
i really don't have anything to disagree with honestly. i have spent a TON of time reading your post. the only thing i could say is that in my opinion if you do not use a portien skimmer and your mainly focusing on using water changes i think the use of a hang on filter could be used just to take big pieces of waste out such as left over flake food or such BUT it would have to be washed everyday to keep build up off of it.

OR you could just take out the filter media out of it and run it with activated carbon if there was no where else to run the activated carbon.
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Old 12-20-2009, 06:55 PM   #17
 
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i really don't have anything to disagree with honestly. i have spent a TON of time reading your post. the only thing i could say is that in my opinion if you do not use a portien skimmer and your mainly focusing on using water changes i think the use of a hang on filter could be used just to take big pieces of waste out such as left over flake food or such BUT it would have to be washed everyday to keep build up off of it.

OR you could just take out the filter media out of it and run it with activated carbon if there was no where else to run the activated carbon.
I was just kidding actually, but I agree with you on this as well. Although I would be hard pressed to think of a marine tank that I would run without a skimmer.
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Old 12-20-2009, 10:29 PM   #18
 
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I was just kidding actually, but I agree with you on this as well. Although I would be hard pressed to think of a marine tank that I would run without a skimmer.
Your slacking, I can think of a one at least.

Any tank that needed to be quiet I suppose, which would be fine so long as water changes are big and frequent. Which is why smaller is better in this scenario.

I actually often think about ditching the skimmer on my nano for either the aforementioned regime or an algae turf scrubber. I'm not convinced I want to change anything at all on that tank though, I still can't get nitrite, nitrate or ammonia to even register ...
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Old 12-21-2009, 08:31 AM   #19
 
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Your slacking, I can think of a one at least.

Any tank that needed to be quiet I suppose, which would be fine so long as water changes are big and frequent. Which is why smaller is better in this scenario.
I just want to clear up that Water Changes and Protein Skimmers do not do the same thing. In fact, I use the two for very different reasons altogether.

I use my Protein Skimmer to remove dissolved organic compounds from the water column. This cannot truly be acheived at the same level by water changes. The skimmer is working 24 hours a day and hopefully having all the water in the tank run through it. Even a large Water Change of 30% would only remove 30% of the pollutants (Which I don't reccommend; large water changes can shock the inhabitants of the tank, at the very least stress them out). The only thing that I would substitute for a Protein Skimmer on a small tank would be a bag of activated carbon (I use both on my 150).

I use Water Changes to replace trace minerals and keep my water at desirable Cal and Alk levels. I have found that changing 10% of the water a week (along with dosing) helps keep my Calcium between 400-450 ppm, and my Alkalinity between 8-12 dKH. I don't even consider the water changes as a way to remove pollutants, as my Nitrates are almost never detectable, and 'Trites and Ammonia are always zero (as a result of Live Rock and Live Sand Bed).

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Old 12-21-2009, 08:53 AM   #20
 
Depends what water you take out of the tank, how much flow you have in the tank and where the flow is directed if you ask me. Most of the dissolved proteins (70-80% if memory serves) in the tank build a film on the surface with slower flow up top, so if you manually "skim" the surface with water changes you can effectively remove a huge amount of waste when compared to regular water changes.

Take that with a pinch of salt though and I would almost always recommend a protein skimmer. I'm just saying that tanks can thrive skimmer-less.
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