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100 gallon Salt Water Aquarium newbie with questions
Old 02-06-2010, 05:25 AM   #11
 
Make sure it isn't tempered glass before you try to drill it! :)

Get base rock from Marco Rocks. I would buy this:

75 Pounds Key Largo Rock, <br>160 Pounds Bahamas Aragonite Sand<BR>pay $35 shipping only - KL75-160

For 300 bucks shipped you get 75 pounds of base rock and 160 pounds of base sand pre-cycled. You can then add about 15 to 25 pounds of live rock from your LFS to seed the base rock and sand... and you know you are getting a quality product that is entirely reef safe.
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Old 02-06-2010, 05:27 AM   #12
 
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Make sure it isn't tempered glass before you try to drill it! :)

Get base rock from Marco Rocks. I would buy this:

75 Pounds Key Largo Rock, <br>160 Pounds Bahamas Aragonite Sand<BR>pay $35 shipping only - KL75-160

For 300 bucks shipped you get 75 pounds of base rock and 160 pounds of base sand pre-cycled. You can then add about 15 to 25 pounds of live rock from your LFS to seed the base rock and sand... and you know you are getting a quality product that is entirely reef safe.

Also... a good LFS will get you some rubble from their live rock tank for free to help you seed when you buy live rock from them. Just scatter them behind your rock structure so they don't mess with the appearance of the tank and they will work wonders with seeding the base rock and base sand.
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Old 02-06-2010, 08:44 AM   #13
 
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thats not too bad for a 200lb bag now when im adding salt... what is the amount used per gallon?
You will use about 2 cups for a 5 gallon bucket, but it will vary depending on temperature. Start just under this amount and add salt as necessary for your initial fill of the tank.

I agree with NC Frank and the comments in the 2 above posts. I would highly recommend using Marco Rocks, and using their sand.
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Old 02-06-2010, 12:09 PM   #14
 
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I agree with NC Frank and the comments in the 2 above posts. I would highly recommend using Marco Rocks, and using their sand.
I would hope that you would agree since I am regurgitating what you said to help me get started. ;)
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Old 02-07-2010, 01:19 AM   #15
 
ok.. a couple questions with getting the 75 pounds of dry rock, plus 25 from lfs will that pretty much fill up the tank and be all I need or will I probably need to add more pieces ive been told 1 lb per gallon then ive been told 2 lbs .... so im confused on that one...

and is the base sand live sand or just argonite sand....

so with the salt I just add a lil bit let it settle test for the salinity of the water and then add more until I get the right amount.. ?

I am going to have a internal overflow in the rear middle of the tank.. and how can I tell if glass is tempered or not?... I had read somewhere that usually only the bottom sheet is tempered and that the backs are not on glass tanks so I was going for 2 small and 1 large holes exiting the back side of the tank right behind the overflow... with bulkheads.. that dropped down to a skimmer, calcium reactor... but I need some suggestions on what pump I need and what protien skimmer that would be a good ideal choice for this.. im going to have a sump tank in the bottom.. probably around a 10 gallon box out of the acrylic that will have a spot for sponge filter also..

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Old 02-07-2010, 06:55 AM   #16
 
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ok.. a couple questions with getting the 75 pounds of dry rock, plus 25 from lfs will that pretty much fill up the tank and be all I need or will I probably need to add more pieces ive been told 1 lb per gallon then ive been told 2 lbs .... so im confused on that one...
The number of pounds per gallon is kind of an old wise tale. What you need is a reef structure for microfauna to populate and for fish to establish territories. You can't really say how many pounds, because different rocks of the same size have different densities and therefore different mass. For example, a Tennis Ball is much lighter in weight than a Pool Table Ball. As a rule of thumb, it takes about 100 to 150 pounds for your tank size, depending on the rock. Start with 100 pounds or so and add more as you see the need. Post pictures and we can help, or look at some of our tank pictures to get an idea of how much rock you will need.

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and is the base sand live sand or just argonite sand....
Yes. You want aragonite sand, and it will become live in the near future after adding live rock. A handful of live rock rubble from the LFS will help. Just ask them for a small handfull of the crushed gunk at the bottom of their live rock vat. It will be loaded with copepods and amphipods to seed your sand bed.

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so with the salt I just add a lil bit let it settle test for the salinity of the water and then add more until I get the right amount.. ?
I generally use just under 2 cups per 5 gallons initially. Allow it to mix well for 24 hours and then test. Add additional salt as needed to reach 1.024.

There are many good options for protein skimmers. The key will be measuring the space in your sump and finding a skimmer with the proper footprint. Here are some suggestions:
Red Sea Berlin X2 Venturi Skimmer with Pump
Marineland Pro In Sump Protein Skimmer 300 Marineland Pro Skimmer
Octopus Recirculating Skimmer - Medium - 6 in. | Venturi Models | Protein Skimmers | Aquarium - ThatPetPlace.com
In-Sump Protein Skimmer - G2 - 200 Gallon - 21 1/4 in. high | Venturi Models | Protein Skimmers | Aquarium - ThatPetPlace.com

The 2nd link above is the Marineland model. It has a tiny footprint and works great in small sumps. The 4th link is to the ASM G2. I use the ASM G3 on my 180 and have been happy with it.
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:46 AM   #17
 
ok.. thanks a lot that helps clear some confusion... in a lil bit im going down to a local fish supplpy that I hear is really good that sells saltwater fish.. so ima talk to them and check out there prices...
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:02 AM   #18
 
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ok.. thanks a lot that helps clear some confusion... in a lil bit im going down to a local fish supplpy that I hear is really good that sells saltwater fish.. so ima talk to them and check out there prices...
Just be wary of any advice that the pet store is going to give you. I would lean towards taking the advice of people on this forum (Wake, Pasfur, Dawn, etc.) than listening to anything that a majority of LFS owners will try to tell you. ;)
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:29 AM   #19
 
yah Ive heard a lot of bs in the hobby from lfs owners before... Im sure its like when I was dealing with reptiles a lot and still learning, some would have good solid sound advice, and even sometimes gave you tips and tricks that took away from buying extra stuff while others were just trying to increase sales in there shop by feeding me total b/s...

I usually take in everyones advice for consideration but I usually confirm information before I believe it...

like yersterday I was talkin bout my fish setup that im going to do with one of my clients and she actually told me not to get live rock because live rock was bad for the fish... im like whatever... I really stopped listening after that but she was basically saying that things came out of her live rock and ate her fish... .. i was like umm ok..
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:06 PM   #20
 
Well it seems im back to square one again with the whole project I thought I had a plan of attack, but now I may have to buy another tank... as im having trouble locating a top and bottom frame for my tank... ive talked to a few vendors... and today at lfs she said she could probably order it.... but im not sure... guess I will know in a day or so
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