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post #11 of 37 Old 03-05-2012, 12:35 AM Thread Starter
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Oh on the T5NO single tube, I'm going to hit google, but does anyone know if you can get just the fixture. I would want the 6700k bulb not the 10000k bulb if I could only pick one.

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post #12 of 37 Old 03-05-2012, 11:40 AM
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Aside from what several of us have said in this thread to date... the bottom line for me: if it were me I would get a single-tube T5 fixture over this tank (29g). And then use a decent T5 HO tube. HO is easier to find because it is more commonly used. NO is not. And two HO is way too much.

I have a single-tube T8 over my 29g, and that is at the low end of moderate, which suits my needs. Going up one notch, I would get the above, a single-tube T5 fixture, then a HO tube. This would increase the light by about 1.5 times.

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post #13 of 37 Old 03-05-2012, 11:55 AM Thread Starter
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Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I was getting confused with the HO-NO. I was under the impression you guys were recommended the single T5NO (linked by quantum). Haven't even thought about going HO. The T5HO for some reason is burned into my brain housing group as bad for low tech. You are absolutely correct though a single HO bulb is a lot cheaper and easier to find than a T5NO bulb.

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Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I was getting confused with the HO-NO. I was under the impression you guys were recommended the single T5NO (linked by quantum). Haven't even thought about going HO. The T5HO for some reason is burned into my brain housing group as bad for low tech. You are absolutely correct though a single HO bulb is a lot cheaper and easier to find than a T5NO bulb.
Earlier I said that Quantum's suggestion was good, and I still do. Trouble is, NO tubes are rare. For example, no one in Vancouver where I live carries them. And I prefer getting this sort of equipment via local stores in case I have to take them back. And I cannot recall ever seeing NO advertised in TFH or PFK.

HO is much more readily available, as more and more manufacturers are getting into this. ZooMed now carries a complete line of their tubes in T5 HO, and Hagen brought out their T5 "-Glo" series quite some time back. Neither of these make NO. NO is very close to T8, and I suspect the thinking is that if you want that level of light, stay with the less expensive T8. T5 was initially developed for reef tanks that need high light for corals, without having so many tubes over the tank. It's application to freshwater has been a convenience, but perhaps not ideal. And with the increasing development now of LED and other lighting o-options, I doubt we will see much advancement in the T5. They have developed VHO (very high output) again for reef systems.

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any idea if the aqueon is Ho? I cant find anything on it? Nothing on the fixture or lamp.
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any idea if the aqueon is Ho? I cant find anything on it? Nothing on the fixture or lamp.
Is it T5 or T8? It must say this somewhere.

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That is likely HO, but they don't say. So, on the tube in the fixture, at one end there will be some writing, give us what that says. We can then track this down.

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post #19 of 37 Old 03-05-2012, 01:03 PM Thread Starter
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That is the same one we have been discussing. Those are NO bulbs in the Aqueon fixture you linked

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post #20 of 37 Old 03-05-2012, 01:04 PM Thread Starter
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It comes with a NO for the 30" an 18w 10000k color max bulb and an 18w 6700k daylight bulb.

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