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Old 02-13-2010, 11:28 AM   #11
 
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Now today i have got a few plants for my molly a
plants are always good !!!

I'm running around today; but will keep an eye out for plant ID post, all else Byron will be here too to help he knows any plant out there
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Old 02-13-2010, 09:24 PM   #12
 
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You are right, they do not "need" salt. I had them as a kid sucessfully and never used salt.
So even i wont use any salt for my black mollies
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Old 02-13-2010, 09:43 PM   #13
 
Please can you identify the plants which are below:




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Old 02-13-2010, 11:34 PM   #14
 
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The two big plants are Amazon swords. Exactly which sword, I'm not sure. I think it's the Bleheri. Echinodorus Bleheri
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:38 AM   #15
 
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The two big plants are Amazon swords. Exactly which sword, I'm not sure. I think it's the Bleheri. Echinodorus Bleheri
Thanks so much for telling me that and can you tell me that are these plants ok and good enough for my mollies?
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:10 AM   #16
 
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They are a fairly easy plant to grow. They adapt well and can grow with low to medium light. They do like being fed at the roots though. A root tablet, such as Seachems Flourish Root tabs should be placed near the base for the roots to intake the nutrients.
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Old 02-14-2010, 10:17 AM   #17
 
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They are a fairly easy plant to grow. They adapt well and can grow with low to medium light. They do like being fed at the roots though. A root tablet, such as Seachems Flourish Root tabs should be placed near the base for the roots to intake the nutrients.
Thats good news for me but the sad thing here with me is that this brand seachem is not available in india.
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:19 AM   #18
 
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A good liquid fertilizer will suffice if you can't get substrate tabs/sticks. I don't know what may be available to you, but my recommended fertilizers are:

Kent Freshwater Plant (liquid)
Nutrafin's Plant-Gro (liquid and sticks)

And of course the Seachem Flourish Comprehensive Supplement (liquid) or root tabs, but you say you can't get Seachem.

If you have something other than the above available, and can send me the full name including manufacturer, I may be able to track down info and offer advice on it's probable usefulness. Not all fertilizers work, or are good for aquaria.

By the way, the two plants are Echinodorus but I don't think they are E. bleheri. They look more like E. cordifolius or E. macrophyllus. The leaves on them now will yellow and die, they should be cut off when they start yellowing provided new growth is emerging from the centre of the crown. When the new leaves get about half as tall as the current leaves, it is OK to remove the current leaves (assuming they are then yellowing). This present growth is emersed growth; nurseries grow the plants emersed because it is quicker and less expensive. Swords are bog plants that live half the year emersed (roots in water as in a marsh) and half submersed. The leaf forms of each differ, so when planted permanently underwater the emersed leaves will die off and new growth will be the submersed form; the leaves will be quite different in shape and texture. That's why it can be tricky identifying species; they can look completely unrelated in some species.

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Old 02-14-2010, 11:28 AM   #19
 
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A good liquid fertilizer will suffice if you can't get substrate tabs/sticks. I don't know what may be available to you, but my recommended fertilizers are:

Kent Freshwater Plant (liquid)
Nutrafin's Plant-Gro (liquid and sticks)

And of course the Seachem Flourish Comprehensive Supplement (liquid) or root tabs, but you say you can't get Seachem.

If you have something other than the above available, and can send me the full name including manufacturer, I may be able to track down info and offer advice on it's probable usefulness. Not all fertilizers work, or are good for aquaria.

By the way, the two plants are Echinodorus but I don't think they are E. bleheri. They look more like E. cordifolius or E. macrophyllus. The leaves on them now will yellow and die, they should be cut off when they start yellowing provided new growth is emerging from the centre of the crown. When the new leaves get about half as tall as the current leaves, it is OK to remove the current leaves (assuming they are then yellowing). This present growth is emersed growth; nurseries grow the plants emersed because it is quicker and less expensive. Swords are bog plants that live half the year emersed (roots in water as in a marsh) and half submersed. The leaf forms of each differ, so when planted permanently underwater the emersed leaves will die off and new growth will be the submersed form; the leaves will be quite different in shape and texture. That's why it can be tricky identifying species; they can look completely unrelated in some species.

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sir right now i am not planning on using any fertilizers. thanks a lot for the detailed reply but as i am a novice in using live plants so sir i would like to put up a question. Some points which you have stated could not be understood by me so i would like to ask you in short that looking at the present condition of my plants what all do you suggest me to do with the plants so that i can make them grow and which all portions and where all do i need to cut the plant?
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Old 02-14-2010, 11:52 AM   #20
 
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sir right now i am not planning on using any fertilizers. thanks a lot for the detailed reply but as i am a novice in using live plants so sir i would like to put up a question. Some points which you have stated could not be understood by me so i would like to ask you in short that looking at the present condition of my plants what all do you suggest me to do with the plants so that i can make them grow and which all portions and where all do i need to cut the plant?
Nothing needs cutting yet. The largest leaves do have some yellowing on them, and these leaves will die; this is perfectly natural. The new leaves come from the centre of the crown, the crown is the base of the plant where all the leaves come up from next to the gravel. You have some new leaves on these plants, and more will appear. As the older outside leaves yellow, they can be cut off at the base; they will usually break off easily, or use a sharp knife.

You will probably have to get some fertilizer or these plants will not do well. Sword plants are heavy feeders, they need a lot of nutrients to grow. Your tap water may have some minerals in it, and minerals come from the fish foods and fish waste. But these will probably not be enough for the plants. If you let me know what aquarium plant fertilizers are available to you in India, I will do my best to offer suggestions.

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