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post #11 of 16 Old 09-15-2011, 11:25 AM
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Thanks a bunch Byron! I am never gone anyways for that long so I will do as you said and go away from the auto feeders. Just now I was looking at some DIY protein skimmers for freshwater but it did like it would be a pain with floating plants. I'm just going to keep my light down to 8 hours a day, watch feeding and stay on top of the weekly water changes.

In two days it will be time for me to use some more Flourish Comprehensive. Should I still do this weeks dosage?
The plants need the nutrients to photosynthesize, so I would go back to whatever you did that was working until this occurred. But, I would do a major cleanup first, which you may already have done. Remove as much of the brown stuff and the scum as possible; the latter is easy by turning the gravel vacuum upside down and holding it at the surface with a partial flow of water down the tube, if you follow me, so you have a running stream. As for the green algae, remove what you can. A 50% or even 60% water change while doing this cleanup is fine.

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The plants need the nutrients to photosynthesize, so I would go back to whatever you did that was working until this occurred. But, I would do a major cleanup first, which you may already have done. Remove as much of the brown stuff and the scum as possible; the latter is easy by turning the gravel vacuum upside down and holding it at the surface with a partial flow of water down the tube, if you follow me, so you have a running stream. As for the green algae, remove what you can. A 50% or even 60% water change while doing this cleanup is fine.
Thanks again for the sound advice. I trimmed out a lot of the Water Sprite and threw it away and snapped off the few leaves of Wisteria that had the green hair algae on them. Even then I still had some unaffected Water Sprite and I am hopping it will grow back. After scrubbing all the sides and removing all infected items I did a 50% water change. That is a great idea with the gravel vac upside down. I did something similar like that to get all the scum off the surface. Right now it looks really great. I went to a local aquarium store and bought a few bunches for Wisteria to float on the surface. That will be a temporary fix until my Water Sprite grows back.

I have the lights down to 8 hours but it sure does suck not getting to see that tank lit up as much

Thanks Byron!
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Thanks again for the sound advice. I trimmed out a lot of the Water Sprite and threw it away and snapped off the few leaves of Wisteria that had the green hair algae on them. Even then I still had some unaffected Water Sprite and I am hopping it will grow back. After scrubbing all the sides and removing all infected items I did a 50% water change. That is a great idea with the gravel vac upside down. I did something similar like that to get all the scum off the surface. Right now it looks really great. I went to a local aquarium store and bought a few bunches for Wisteria to float on the surface. That will be a temporary fix until my Water Sprite grows back.

I have the lights down to 8 hours but it sure does suck not getting to see that tank lit up as much

Thanks Byron!
You're welcome. A timer for the lights works well. You can have the "on" period set for when you are most normally home to view the tank. The schedule doesn't reall matter, provided the fish get "light" and "dark" periods comparable to normal day/night in a 24-hour period, but the actual time of these can be whatever.

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You're welcome. A timer for the lights works well. You can have the "on" period set for when you are most normally home to view the tank. The schedule doesn't reall matter, provided the fish get "light" and "dark" periods comparable to normal day/night in a 24-hour period, but the actual time of these can be whatever.
I will play around with that and see if I can find a fit where the light is on mostly when I am around. But I will be careful and try to give the fish a feel of day/night as you suggested.
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I will play around with that and see if I can find a fit where the light is on mostly when I am around. But I will be careful and try to give the fish a feel of day/night as you suggested.
As an example, my tank lights are on from noon until 8 pm. You could have them come on at 3 pm and go off at 11 pm if you are usually home evenings for instance.

However, one important thing to bear in mind: fish need a period of total darkness, no ambient room light, complete darkness. I wouldn't go less than 8 hours for this dark. And second, there must be room light when the tank lights come on and go off, to avoid stress on the fish from sudden light/dark. I am working on an article on light and fish eyes that will detail this more, but it is very important. In my case for instance, when the tank lights go out at 8pm in winter it is total darkness outside, and I have a fish room, so there is a wall light that is also on a timer to come on a few minutes before 8pm and remains on for an hour. At noon when the tank lights come on there is daylight from the windows.

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As an example, my tank lights are on from noon until 8 pm. You could have them come on at 3 pm and go off at 11 pm if you are usually home evenings for instance.

However, one important thing to bear in mind: fish need a period of total darkness, no ambient room light, complete darkness. I wouldn't go less than 8 hours for this dark. And second, there must be room light when the tank lights come on and go off, to avoid stress on the fish from sudden light/dark. I am working on an article on light and fish eyes that will detail this more, but it is very important. In my case for instance, when the tank lights go out at 8pm in winter it is total darkness outside, and I have a fish room, so there is a wall light that is also on a timer to come on a few minutes before 8pm and remains on for an hour. At noon when the tank lights come on there is daylight from the windows.

Byron.
This makes perfect sense to me. Right now the light comes on at 12:00 pm and goes off at 8:00pm. The sunlight is the morning prelight and then before the light goes off I usually have a distant lamp that is creating a smoothing end light. Heck I remember being in class watching a power point with the lights off. When they turned on the lights it sure was annoying. So I am sure it is the same with fish. I look forward to your article when you complete it.

So far so good. No issues with any of that stuff showing up yet. Just got done using some flourish for the plants. I will let yall know if anything starts up again.
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