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post #21 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 02:43 PM Thread Starter
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Alright, I'll definitely will be trying pond soil. Sawdust? Hmmm...

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post #22 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 02:55 PM
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It'd be risky... Most wood is treated nowadays... Have to find sawdust from untreated wood... But I'd imagine a little would go a LONG way mixed into the soil/sand mixture that Tom Barr encourages...
I still say OC potting soil would be good to add with the "pond soil" you dig up. Should be a complete substrate, with little to no risk (since I use OC potting soil with no problems).

I wouldn't use clams... They're extremely hard to feed, and will burrow themselves in the substrate. If they die, you have a massive ammonia spike and you'll have to break the tank down to find them.
Blackworms would be ok I think- they will eat nearly anything...Make sure to keep the tank well planted, well lit, and absolutely MUST keep it under 80 degrees. 80F temps will kill the worms.

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post #23 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 03:39 PM Thread Starter
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From what I've been told they aren't difficult at all. Also have an idea to keep them from borrowing too deep. I'll tell you later, too much to type using phone.

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post #24 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 04:13 PM
wow guys, just dig up dirt from the yard.

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post #25 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 04:22 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, here's the plan. Take a thin piece of plexiglass with lots of holes drilled into it. The holes will be big but too small for the clams to get through them. This will be under the sand.

Also, what about Eco-earth? It's a soil mix I used for my planted reptile tanks. It was a mix of soil and coconut husks.

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??? Gold, Brown/Black, Ivory Mystery Snails (lots of babies and eggs too)
??? Pond Snails
1.1 P. Alleni (I think...) in 'baskets' until sold...


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LOTS of baby Marbled Crayfish


10 Gallon Planted
Unknown plants
Lots of Ghost Shrimp (some berried up :D)
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post #26 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 04:29 PM Thread Starter
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What's wrong with pond soil? I actually don't have a yard anyway...

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15ish Marbled Cray fish
A few Ghost Shrimp


20 Gallon Snail Tank
??? Gold, Brown/Black, Ivory Mystery Snails (lots of babies and eggs too)
??? Pond Snails
1.1 P. Alleni (I think...) in 'baskets' until sold...


10 Gallon Baby Marbled Tank
LOTS of baby Marbled Crayfish


10 Gallon Planted
Unknown plants
Lots of Ghost Shrimp (some berried up :D)
3 Blue Mystery Snails

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post #27 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 04:49 PM
do you mean store bought pond soil or mud from a active pond?

No clams this was already stated. If you chose to go this route research very carefully. Adult clams are fine, they have the tendency to starve though. If you by chance make them happy they may breed and their larval young actually parasitize fish for a give stage. So again clams are a bad idea.

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post #28 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
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Pond soil from a pond near me.

Clam larvae aren't parasitic, mulusks are (well, not in the technical term, the just hitchhike but can cause damage doing so). As long as you feed plenty small foods that can be siphoned and don't vac the gravel, plus have a nice amount of water flow they are fine. I'll probably just try one and see how it goes.

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15ish Marbled Cray fish
A few Ghost Shrimp


20 Gallon Snail Tank
??? Gold, Brown/Black, Ivory Mystery Snails (lots of babies and eggs too)
??? Pond Snails
1.1 P. Alleni (I think...) in 'baskets' until sold...


10 Gallon Baby Marbled Tank
LOTS of baby Marbled Crayfish


10 Gallon Planted
Unknown plants
Lots of Ghost Shrimp (some berried up :D)
3 Blue Mystery Snails
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post #29 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 05:46 PM
you need to research. You stated clams, most freshwater river "burrowing bivalves" have the Glochidium larvae which does use a fish host. I have no idea what you mean by mollusk since that term covers a almost a whole pyhlum including snails, bivalves, slugs, and squid. The larval stage is not very harmful in the wild, but in a aquarium you are looking at much smaller volume and the larva like to attach to the fishes gills.

Pond soil will contain a massive amount of micro organisms, both good and bad for fish. You can use it, but expect to have critters in your tank that are possible harmful. A number will survive drying out via eggs and such.

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post #30 of 38 Old 01-06-2011, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
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Trust me, doing plenty of research, hence the reason I'm on this forum...just trying to get an idea of other's experiences with this. I also plan on just 1 clam to see how it goes, which I've already stated. If it doesn't work out then it doesn't.

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29 Gallon Marbled Tank
15ish Marbled Cray fish
A few Ghost Shrimp


20 Gallon Snail Tank
??? Gold, Brown/Black, Ivory Mystery Snails (lots of babies and eggs too)
??? Pond Snails
1.1 P. Alleni (I think...) in 'baskets' until sold...


10 Gallon Baby Marbled Tank
LOTS of baby Marbled Crayfish


10 Gallon Planted
Unknown plants
Lots of Ghost Shrimp (some berried up :D)
3 Blue Mystery Snails
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