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post #21 of 41 Old 12-28-2012, 04:28 PM
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If there is a park nearby, you might be able to dig there. You only really need a cup or so...
If not, look for a lake or stream that has fish and dig a few cupfulls out, but bake the soil at 350F for a couple hours to sterilise it.

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post #22 of 41 Old 12-28-2012, 04:50 PM Thread Starter
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Byron would i be able to grow plants in just plain sand and redchigh i actually remember that i have some oak trees out back where my dad never goes (i live in the country in deep south mississippi) that has some really dark black soil (i guess from degrading oak leaves and stuff what would i need to do to that
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post #23 of 41 Old 12-28-2012, 05:52 PM
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Miracle-Gro Organic Choice Potting Mix:

For container vegetables, fruits, flowers and herbs
Made from natural and organic ingredients
Continuously feeds for up to 2 months
IMHO Hint hint it has added fertz. probably time released

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #24 of 41 Old 12-28-2012, 06:23 PM Thread Starter
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well im just learning on the naturally planted tanks and thats what ppl use in videos on youtube im just trying to learn best easiest way to do this
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post #25 of 41 Old 12-28-2012, 07:14 PM
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Your black soil might be very good, let redchigh comment.

My comment on sand was because of all the problems being mentioned, from toxins being dumped in your yard to buying plant soil that should not be used in a fish tank. Yes, plants will grow in plain sand and plain gravel (the finer gravel is better than larger gravel), they will grow in almost any substrate, perhaps with varying rates of growth. I have used plain gravel and now plain sand in my tanks for over 20 years and I have no problems growing plants. Check the photos under the "Aquariums" tab below my name on the left for the proof.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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do you have to dose with liquid ferts if using plain sand
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I have figured out where I read about the Miracle Grow Organic Potting Mix being good for doing a natural planted tank and that is in the Diana Walstad book and the Walstad method
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post #28 of 41 Old 12-28-2012, 08:01 PM
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Walstad recommends "ordinary potting soil or garden soil" and warns of any that contain fertilizers or perlite.

Liquid fertilzer depends upon what nutrients exist in the aquarium. Some occur in the tap water, all via fish food though the level may not be sufficient depending upon the plants, and from decomposing organics. Some aquarists have nice planted tanks with plain gravel and no fertilization; others find they must dose fertilizers in varying degrees.

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post #29 of 41 Old 12-28-2012, 08:44 PM Thread Starter
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oh well how do i tell if it is ordinary potting soil can you please look up that stuff and help me cause in varying places I have heard that the Organic Mirical Grow Potting mix is the best to use if buying soil instead of digging it up .... being organic isnt it the same as mineralizing the soil yourself.. sorry don't mean to argue Im just doing the research and asking questions to learn about this.... I am just questioning what i have heard else where (i.e youtube, reading thro other forums, books, etc.)
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