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Old 02-27-2012, 12:17 PM   #11
 
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The plant is the only thing I can think of, since I do 50% water changes a week and clean the filters regularly. I have slow growing plants mainly, Crypts, anubia's and then I have a few bunches of, Hygrophila Polysperma and limnophila heterophylla.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:06 PM   #12
 
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Do you use the API master test kit for fresh water? If so, I wonder if maybe you just didn't mix the Regent 2 bottle quite enough when you got that reading? I only ask because it seems odd (though I suppose quite possible) that adding the Lotus would add the Nitrate level that much. That Regent is fussy and if you don't shake it really hard for at least 2 minutes, the numbers can be way off.
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Old 02-28-2012, 09:47 AM   #13
 
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Yeah I have that test kit and always shake it for about 5 mins, I never used to get a reading for nitrate when I first started out and got told on bettafish.com, what you just told me lol.

It doesn't seem to be affecting the fish in my tropical tank, but every betta I have had since christmas has died, and at first I thought it was a coincidence but I'm not so sure anymore. I'm going to keep an eye on the levels before I buy another and I've also bought a moss ball as well, but I'm not sure how much good that will do.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:58 AM   #14
 
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On the issue of floating leaves with Nymphaea lotus (Red Tiger Lotus), this is influenced by light and nutrients. In lower light, floating leaves will readily form and there will basically be none below. In brighter light only lower leaves develop. The length of the petiole is largely determined by the light intensity as the leaves will naturally grow closer to the light if it is weaker.

Nutrients can also affect this, somewhat less. With a nutrient-rich substrate, leaves will tend to be more numerous and compact. Root tabs are suggested in plain gravel or sand substrates. My plants in the 90g were OK with liquid fertilization, but root tabs did improve growth. And being moderate light, all my leaves are floating.

On the nitrate issue Welsh, I can't think this is related to this plant. Anything else changed lately? What about your tap water? Test it; it is not unknown for tap water to suddenly have nitrates higher than previously; ammonia and nitrite can occur like this too.

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Old 02-28-2012, 12:16 PM   #15
 
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I've tested the tap water too and thats fine. I've also had two filters in my tank for the last 2 months, waiting to put in to another tank, so for the nitrates to be high its strange. I think i'm going to cut back even further on the amount I feed them and see if that makes a difference.

As for the root tabs, the only one's I can find around me are the " Tetra Plant Crypto Fertiliser" and "API root tabs, with iron" would these be any good for the plant?

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Old 02-28-2012, 12:23 PM   #16
 
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I've tested the tap water too and thats fine. I've also had two filters in my tank for the last 2 months, waiting to put in to another tank, so for the nitrates to be high its strange. I think i'm going to cut back even further on the amount I feed them and see if that makes a difference.

As for the root tabs, the only one's I can find around me are the " Tetra Plant Crypto Fertiliser" would these be any good for the plant?
The two filters may be causing the nitrates. The more biological filtration, the more nitrates result. Which is why in planted tanks, filtration should be minimal; encouraging biological filtration is competing with the plants. Do you have need for two filters, or think you have?

On the fertilizer, I don't know this one personally but from what I can find online i would think it does the job you need. It contains iron and other trace elements. The macro nutrients will naturally be present from tap water and fish foods and fish/bacteria.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:30 PM   #17
 
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You learn something new everyday, I didn't know that about the filtration. It was a new filter so I have it running to build up bacteria for a new tank, i'll be removing it soon so hopefully everything will settle down then :)

When I get the root tabs what do I do with them, just place one whole in the tank, or one for every tiger lotus I have?

Thanks :)
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:50 PM   #18
 
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You learn something new everyday, I didn't know that about the filtration. It was a new filter so I have it running to build up bacteria for a new tank, i'll be removing it soon so hopefully everything will settle down then :)

When I get the root tabs what do I do with them, just place one whole in the tank, or one for every tiger lotus I have?

Thanks :)
Again, I've not used those, so depending upon the instructions, I would probably have one of them close to each tuber, maybe 2 inches from it and buried a bit down where the roots will likely spread.

Nitrate in a natural planted tank should never rise above 10ppm, and usually remain below 5ppm. Only if you are adding nitrogen as fertilizer such as one would with high-tech setups should you detect nitrates (unless they are already in the source water). The more plants, and the more fast-growing plants, the less ammonia will be left for bacteria, so the less nitrite and nitrate in the nitrification cycle.
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Old 03-01-2012, 12:39 PM   #19
 
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I took the filter out today and tested the water... Nitrates: 80ppm! I couldn't believe it! I did a water change and plan to do a 25-50% a day, until their back down to 5-10ppm. Now I know why I haven't seen my fish much, lately.

Thanks for your help :)
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