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post #1 of 4 Old 04-30-2009, 07:57 PM Thread Starter
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Question Tetras and Apple Snails

Anyone have any problems with the tetras biting on the antennas of snails? I was going to buy a school of neon tetras but seen them picking or should I say, biting on several Black Kuhli Loaches. I know, some are going to say not to put the tetras in with the angels because they will later be food for the angels, but I was going to try with small ones since the angels are only a dime size. Suggestions? My tank is bare.



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1 Bala Shark
1 Upside-Down Catfish
1 Pleco
2 Dime-size Angels
2 Apple Snails
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I do not recommend keeping neons with angels. First, they require different water temperatures to be healthy (with respect to each other, angels warmer, neons cooler). Second, neons can nip the fins of angels. Third, mature angels will consider neons as food.

Angels are sedate fish, prefering to live in small groups, with suitably quiet tank companions to avoid being stressed which as we know leads to disease and other problems. In this respect they are similar to discus. And both prefer warmer temperatures than most (not all) of the shoaling tetras. Cardinals would make better companions than neons.

As others may well say, it is always possible to do the opposite. But I feel that it is better to provide as close an environment as the particular fish prefer to have better chance of maintaining them comfortably (happy) and this certainly leads to better health.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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I do not recommend keeping neons with angels. First, they require different water temperatures to be healthy (with respect to each other, angels warmer, neons cooler). Second, neons can nip the fins of angels. Third, mature angels will consider neons as food.

Angels are sedate fish, prefering to live in small groups, with suitably quiet tank companions to avoid being stressed which as we know leads to disease and other problems. In this respect they are similar to discus. And both prefer warmer temperatures than most (not all) of the shoaling tetras. Cardinals would make better companions than neons.

As others may well say, it is always possible to do the opposite. But I feel that it is better to provide as close an environment as the particular fish prefer to have better chance of maintaining them comfortably (happy) and this certainly leads to better health.
Thanks for the reply. i will see about cardinals then. i know my angels are just so darn small, I feel anything in there other than what I have will kill or injure them.

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55 gallon freshwater

1 Bala Shark (3")
2 Upside-Down Catfish (1" each)
1 Pleco (7")
2 Angels (3")
1 Long-finned barbs (1")
2 Albino Corys (1")
2 Apple Snails
planted tank with driftwood/plus some artificial plants
gravel substrate
smooth rocks
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Thanks for the reply. i will see about cardinals then. i know my angels are just so darn small, I feel anything in there other than what I have will kill or injure them.
There are tetras that would harass angels to death, literally, but in my experience not cardinals. I have maintained large shoals of cardinals for years in community setups of 60 - 130 fish and never once have I observed a cardinal (reaching 1.5 inches) going after anything smaller. Rummynose tetras are the same in my experience.

Just went back through the thread, and would recommend you consider some plants. Sword plants are easy to maintain (if you have full spectrum light) and the angels and any tetras would appreciate them. You'll find lots of info on plants on this forum if you are unsure about trying them; you can see in the photos of my aquaria how easy it is to maintain swords with just adequate light and liquid fertilizer.

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Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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