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post #1 of 12 Old 10-23-2011, 09:32 PM Thread Starter
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Tahitian Moon- Plant?

Just got a couple new plants.
Mixed in with my pennywort was a longer stemmed plant. Leaves are roundish, but fluted upward. I think the tank label said tahitian moon, but all I can find on that is aquarium substrate info.
Anyone recognize this thing?

Top view, more side view, and in one pic the fish is pointing at it. Is a more yellow-green plant, just in front of the water sprite.

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post #2 of 12 Old 10-24-2011, 07:29 AM
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What did the roots looks like? It almost looks like a banana plant to me.. Nymphoides aquatica. But you arent supposed to completely bury the "bananas".

This is just my thought though.. its hard to tell.
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post #3 of 12 Old 10-24-2011, 11:04 AM
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Looks like a Banana plant to me too, though the leaves appear somewhat more dissected at the base. Does it have "banana" tubers? If yes, they should be at least partially above the substrate (not buried).

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I agree- the leaves do look very banana plant-ish. But, it does not have the banana tuber structure- roots are very delicate white roots, similar to the pennywort. Have not been able to find anything similar in pictures at any of the aquatic plant sites.
I suppose I could just call the LFS and ask them.... :} Maybe they will have genus and species somewhere.
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post #5 of 12 Old 10-24-2011, 12:12 PM
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I'm pretty sure that's a banana plant that has lost its bananas. It happens sometimes. I would not bury the normal-looking roots. I would either let it float and see what it does, or weight it so it sits on top of the substrate. Give it time, it may rebound as long as you don't bury it. Well, that's my two cents, anyway. Good luck!

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post #6 of 12 Old 10-24-2011, 12:49 PM Thread Starter
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Called the store where I got it.
It is Taiwan Green Lotus apparently. Though I cannot find anything on that either.
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post #7 of 12 Old 10-24-2011, 01:25 PM
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See if they can give you a scientific name. It will be much easier to ID this way.
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post #8 of 12 Old 10-24-2011, 03:13 PM
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Called the store where I got it.
It is Taiwan Green Lotus apparently. Though I cannot find anything on that either.
That narrows it down. The commonly-called "lotus" plants more common in aquaria are in the genus Nymphaea, also sometimes commonly called lilies. We have the common Red Tiger Lotus, Nymphaea lotus, in our profiles, and it has a green form; the leaves of this species are more elongate. As they are with most of the other species I know of.

However, I did find a "lotus" plant referred to by one writer as Nymphoides sp. "Taiwan" that might be it. The leaves are round and sharply indented at the base. This genus has several species, one of which is our Banana plant, N. aquatica that we were thinking of earlier. It is in Kasselmann's book, my standard reference work, but at the end so I missed it earlier. She says this species is still unidentified (not scientifically described), and nothing is known of its natural habitat. It was first imported from Taiwan, hence its name, in 1994 by the Aquatic Plant Nursery Dennerle. Dr. Kasselmann writes that she has been cultivating this plant for many years; surface-floating leaves, common in other species in this genus, have never been produced, nor has it yet flowered [at least at the time of her book, 2003]. She calls it undemanding, very fast-growing; leaves reach to the surface but floating leaves are not produced.

On one of my plant groups i have come across photos of this plant, and even a flower. The species has so far still not been described. Photos below; the tall green plant is this species.
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post #9 of 12 Old 10-24-2011, 08:32 PM Thread Starter
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Yes- that first picture is it. The sample I have photographed is a very tiny specimen, which is how it got mixed in with the pennywort. There were larger plants that looked like the photograph you posted. Not surprised in the least that it doesn't thrive optimally in captivity (no flowers). Most creatures don't do as well in captivity.
Thanks!
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post #10 of 12 Old 10-24-2011, 09:46 PM Thread Starter
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Here is a very good pic of the leaf, classic.

http://www.plantgeek.net/images/plantpics/ntaiwan3.jpg
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