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Old 06-27-2012, 12:38 PM   #41
 
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I checked it about 4 hours after posting that and it was still 7. I will check it when I get home after work today. I realize I would have to do some pretty large water changes to get it down much further.. if it doesn't increase any more should I just leave it as is.. it should drop again on it's own, right? I can get RO water if I need to..
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:04 PM   #42
 
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I checked it about 4 hours after posting that and it was still 7. I will check it when I get home after work today. I realize I would have to do some pretty large water changes to get it down much further.. if it doesn't increase any more should I just leave it as is.. it should drop again on it's own, right? I can get RO water if I need to..
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GH of 7 d is fine. I keep my tanks around 6, but that means they fluctuate week to week from 5 to 7. Before you do the next water change, I would expect it to be lower, depending how much calcium/magnesium the plants are using.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:35 PM   #43
 
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OK. It seems like it should all be dissolved at this point since it's been steady but I'll keep an eye on it to make sure it doesn't spike up to anything crazy. There was a small amount of the powder that wasn't dissolved in the water I mixed, but I read online that was fine so I poured it all in
I cannot see any more if the powder in the tank.. it looked like it had dissolved within 20 minutes. I vacuumed that area of tank when I was doing the water changes just in case. I will keep an eye on it and won't add anything until it drops down.. I'll try to keep it at like 5-6 as well. Obviously, with a lesser dose next time. Ugh. I feel so stupid. Measure twice, add once! I will not be making that mistake again!
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:57 PM   #44
 
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OK. It seems like it should all be dissolved at this point since it's been steady but I'll keep an eye on it to make sure it doesn't spike up to anything crazy. There was a small amount of the powder that wasn't dissolved in the water I mixed, but I read online that was fine so I poured it all in
I cannot see any more if the powder in the tank.. it looked like it had dissolved within 20 minutes. I vacuumed that area of tank when I was doing the water changes just in case. I will keep an eye on it and won't add anything until it drops down.. I'll try to keep it at like 5-6 as well. Obviously, with a lesser dose next time. Ugh. I feel so stupid. Measure twice, add once! I will not be making that mistake again!
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Equilibrium does the same; I mix a tablespoon in a jar of water by shaking it briskly, but not all dissolves. I always pour it in at the end of the tank closest to the filter return so it gets dispersed as it dissolves. I've even seen the corys and loaches rooting through it with no harm, but after all, it is just minerals. It is usually dissolved within 2-3 hours.
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Old 06-27-2012, 03:10 PM   #45
 
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Yepp, that is exactly what happened. I could only fine one post on another forum when I googled about the Brightwell product not dissolving, but I found plenty of articles saying this happens with Equilibrium and is harmless.

It's a good thing I decided to do it in two steps.. honestly, if it had all dissolved right away I probably would've added at least 14 grams but because it didn't all dissolve it still made me a bit uneasy and made me retest the tank water. It's a good thing I did!

It's good to know I don't need to worry about anything that doesn't dissolve in my next dosing. I will make sure to.put it by the filter.. this time I'd put it in the front of the tank so I could easily watch it.

My corys were picking through it as well.. and my rasboras love swimming in the current whenever I'm adding water so they must have got a nice bath with some very hard water.

Hopefully all the extra minerals will be sucked up quickly if there's any deficiency. Should I add more liquid ferts before my next water change since I took out most of the water just a day after fertilizing?
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Old 06-27-2012, 04:40 PM   #46
 
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Yepp, that is exactly what happened. I could only fine one post on another forum when I googled about the Brightwell product not dissolving, but I found plenty of articles saying this happens with Equilibrium and is harmless.

It's a good thing I decided to do it in two steps.. honestly, if it had all dissolved right away I probably would've added at least 14 grams but because it didn't all dissolve it still made me a bit uneasy and made me retest the tank water. It's a good thing I did!

It's good to know I don't need to worry about anything that doesn't dissolve in my next dosing. I will make sure to.put it by the filter.. this time I'd put it in the front of the tank so I could easily watch it.

My corys were picking through it as well.. and my rasboras love swimming in the current whenever I'm adding water so they must have got a nice bath with some very hard water.

Hopefully all the extra minerals will be sucked up quickly if there's any deficiency. Should I add more liquid ferts before my next water change since I took out most of the water just a day after fertilizing?
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Yes, one dose of Flourish won't hurt.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:46 AM   #47
 
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Awesome. I added some more Flourish tonight.

Tested the water tonight.. a few times. PH is stable, not that I really expected it to change but I haven't tested it at night in a while. It may have been closer to 6.4 than 6.6.. but that's fine. I also tested KH for the fun of it.. the test was green after the first drop. :P

My GH was down to 6 tonight before adding the Flourish. Everyone's doing fine fish wise. My pennywort has already been looking better. Still waiting to see my anubias perk up. As far as the new leaves being lighter there's only that single leaf that looks bad. The older older leaves have gotten a bit worse since the pictures posted. It's that same yellowing spot with green veins... hopefully they start doing better soon.
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Old 07-06-2012, 03:07 PM   #48
 
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I tested the GH again this past Tuesday and it was still at 7.. I'all be testing it again his weekend. I have noticed that the pennywort is doing fine now.. no more melty leaves. :) The anubias aren't looking better, but no worse. I can see quite a few new leaves and they're all the same darker color as the mature leaves. Will the mature leaves repair where the yellowing (with green veins) are, or will it eventually just shed those leaves? I'm not sure where I should be looking for any problems on the anubias, but I don't see anything new.

As far as the new plants, the ludwigia repens x arcuata is doing the best. It was very green when I received it but the tops are turning more on the red side.. I also added ludwigia hybrid red and that is slower to take off (though it started off about 3" shorter than the other ludwigia so I think that makes it harder to start off too.. it seems like it's all growing out of a completely new node instead of the top.. is that normal?

I also added some Alternanthera reineckii "cardinalis" for fun to see if it'd work or not. That's only been in for about a week and a half but I've seen some growth on it too.
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Old 07-06-2012, 06:34 PM   #49
 
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I tested the GH again this past Tuesday and it was still at 7.. I'all be testing it again his weekend.
And is the pH staying acidic now?

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I have noticed that the pennywort is doing fine now.. no more melty leaves. :) The anubias aren't looking better, but no worse. I can see quite a few new leaves and they're all the same darker color as the mature leaves. Will the mature leaves repair where the yellowing (with green veins) are, or will it eventually just shed those leaves? I'm not sure where I should be looking for any problems on the anubias, but I don't see anything new.
No, yellowing leaves will not recover, I've never had any plant do this. It is always the new growth that we watch, and if the new leaves are normal, consider the issue resolved.

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As far as the new plants, the ludwigia repens x arcuata is doing the best. It was very green when I received it but the tops are turning more on the red side.. I also added ludwigia hybrid red and that is slower to take off (though it started off about 3" shorter than the other ludwigia so I think that makes it harder to start off too.. it seems like it's all growing out of a completely new node instead of the top.. is that normal?
I haven't had ludwigia for many years, and am not sure, but new growth from the nodes is fine regardless, so that's good too.

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I also added some Alternanthera reineckii "cardinalis" for fun to see if it'd work or not. That's only been in for about a week and a half but I've seen some growth on it too.
I will be interested to see how this fares long term with the moderate light. If it manages, I may give it a try myself for some added reddish colour.

Overall, sounds good; I am glad we have managed to get this all on track.
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:01 PM   #50
 
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As far as I've seen the ph has been pretty much right at 6.6.. it was closer to 6.4 one early morning before the lights came back on, but I think the ph usually goes down at the CO2 in the water goes up.. and the plants create more CO2 at night.

I'm glad everything seems resolved for now! I'll just keep an eye on the GH and I'll have to experiment with keep that in a moderate range. At least I will be using much less than originally thought. :)

I am almost certain that the Alternathera is the red plant I had planted in my tank before when I had improper light and no ferts either. I only had it for a few weeks or maybe a couple months and it had doubled in size. I can't remember the plant name, but it was one of the plants that petsmart sells that is one of their cultured plants. I think that's what they are. They're not the plants sold in tubes.. there are a large amount of small plantlets sold in a bag with that gel growing medium. they sell ludwigia red this way as well, but looking at the two side by side I am 90% sure it was the Alternathera I had previously. If it survived in that tank I'm thinking it should be OK in mine now. We shall see.. I will keep you updated. I just figured I would try a few options I liked and keep whatever works out best!

I'm about to get some more red root floaters (I only got like 5 before and they didn't do well in shipping.. I think because they were shipped dry, but they didn't even have red roots so I'm not sure they were doing well before shipment). I also asked the person to throw in a piece or two of frogbit to see which works the best. Hopefully both survive. I'd like to get rid of the floating pennywort and so far the floating plant I have that's been doing the best has been duck weed. I've got that in my 2.3 gal but I don't think I want to start that pesty thing in my 29gal. I like it floating in a nano tank though. :) that tank is only 6" tall so I didn't want anything with too extensive of a root system.
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