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post #11 of 15 Old 06-03-2010, 10:54 PM Thread Starter
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I talked to the owner of my LFS a whole bunch. He is a really nice reputable guy. I like him. He's not some big corperation either it's just him. And the employees don't wear name tags and that kinda thing if yu know what I mean. It not like I go to petco but I'm not sayin that he's the end all expert either.
Thanks austin for the online plant sugestion. I will definately get a whole lot of plants from them once I get my tank up and running. Thanks again Byron, you're a beast.

Do you think that swords will do ok in a pool filter sand substrate? I will probably end up using it cause it's so cheap and I have a lot of tank floor to cover. :)
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post #12 of 15 Old 06-04-2010, 12:49 PM
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Do you think that swords will do ok in a pool filter sand substrate? I will probably end up using it cause it's so cheap and I have a lot of tank floor to cover.
They should. Echinodorus have very extensive root systems, and compaction of a substrate like sand is a very real issue with these plants. That's not to say it can't be done, just that it will take some additional care.

If cost is an issue, and I can appreciate that issue from my experience too, there is also bulk gravel at aquarium stores or landscape/stone quarry places. I got some very nice dark "birdseye" gravel for 75 cents a 2-gallon pail; to do my 90g tank is about 6 pails with some extra, that's $4.50 total. You can't buy enough sand for that, it is (here for comparison) $6-7 for a bag, it would take 2-3 bags for my 90g.

The substrate is important for many reasons (biological/bacteria, plant rooting, fish needs, and aesthetic), and once it is in and the tank set up, it is there for good unless you tear down the tank to replace it, so make sure it is right.

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post #13 of 15 Old 06-04-2010, 10:01 PM Thread Starter
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Once I can be more mobile I will look around and try hard to find some small grain gravel but I haven't heard of any stores like that in my town but I will still look. If I was going to keep rainbows in my tank would I really have to have and airstone cause they need high oxeygen levels? I mean the plants provide so much already it seems a bit over kill.
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post #14 of 15 Old 06-05-2010, 12:21 AM
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I have pool filter sand in my tanks and I have Sword plants and they are fine in my low light, no C02 tank. I just use root tabs under them every so often because sword plants like Iron. I like the pool filter sand as it has a courser grain than most sand is a nice color. I posted a picture of my 55 gal. tank with the pool filter sand and you can see how well my sword and other plants are doing. I have a air stone tubing on each side but in my other tanks I have no air stone. I had some Boesmani Rainbow fish that did well in my tank or the Dwarf Neon Rainbows are nice also and do not get really big. The pool filter sand was $11.99 at a pool supply company in town for 50lb bag.
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post #15 of 15 Old 06-05-2010, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
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That is a nice color. I like how it is a little splotchy and not the same color throughout.
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