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Old 05-10-2010, 06:40 PM   #21
 
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Yup all these named tanks are simple plain ole playsand from Lowes washed outside 1-2 times and in the tank it went.
As for the plant question...The pictures on most tanks speak for themselves I'd wanna say lol the 2nd new shrimp farm was set up as you see in one of the 1st pic's in Dec the hair-grass has FULLY filled in since and all other plants get weekly to by-weekly trimming due to size, so there's def no growth issue.
Any & All tanks from me you see listed use no ferts, no co2 nadda; just fish, water and good low lights the only "extra" I have in SOME of the sand tanks are Malaysian trumpet snails.


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And what is the name of the front small bushy plants in 2nd New Shrimp Farm aquarium?
Along the front of the tank about half way into the tank left to right is ALL hairgrass, did you mean that?
In the far right back is Pennywort (round leaves) and Stargrass (like grass on a stem) and about in the rear center is Java Ferns.
Hope this helps.

One side note: I had found Hairgrass quite difficult to grow in medium-fine gravel but in sand it really kicks I'm super happy with it. I can gladly shoot you a updated pic of the tank now 5 month into growth and post it here?
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Old 05-10-2010, 07:37 PM   #22
 
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I can gladly shoot you a updated pic of the tank now 5 month into growth and post it here?
Yeah please do, I will be getting some hairgrass too now, that looks like a cool plant.

But I am a bit confused

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No matter how you set up your tank (sand from river, playsand or gravel) plants need a proper amount of all nutrition's either you have some serious good water quality with which you supply this to your plants OR you will need to add fertilizer to the plants; this then depends on the plants you have either root tablets for root feeders such as Swords or Crypts or a simple liquid fert for stem plants. Improper balance of light AND nutrition's will result in poor plant growth so if either one of these 2 factors is out of balance it won't matter what substrate you choose plants will not grow.
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Any & All tanks from me you see listed use no ferts, no co2 nadda; just fish, water and good low lights the only "extra" I have in SOME of the sand tanks are Malaysian trumpet snails.

What would I have to do to get a good plant growth in the playsand?

PS. Can you get seeds for hairgrass or how do you plant it over a wide areas? Because I was thinking of covering the whole bottom with it.

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Old 05-10-2010, 08:26 PM   #23
 
I don't want to actually growth the plants, but rather to keep them alive, I want a natural bright and healthy plants in my tank.
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Old 05-10-2010, 08:52 PM   #24
 
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Angel what light do you use in the yellow 55?
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Old 05-11-2010, 07:32 AM   #25
 
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Will get pic's as soon as the lights are on and my camera agrees to work with me again.

If you want to ensure your plants will thrive will: for any plants feeding from the water (eg hairgrass, pennwort, stem plants in general) buy a comprehensive liquid fert such as Flourish https://www.petsolutions.com/Default...temID=10105130
If you have plants like a Crypt or Sword buy root feeder tablets such as offered by API

For lights I use T8 daylights from GE on ALL my tanks (can be found at Lowes or Walmart); eg on the 55g I have a 1x30w daylight over it @ 6500 kelvin.

The combo of "right" light and plant food will make for great plant growth!

I haven't heard of hairgrass seed. I just bought 2 pots at sweetaquatics and separated them out in smaller pieces, planted them and let it grow in like lawn.
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Old 05-12-2010, 07:46 AM   #26
 
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Sorry for the delay, had some troubles here....

Here's the tank you were interested in 1st pic is set up end of Dec with the thinned out Hairgrass and then yesterday's picture about 4 months into the growing now....hope this helps?
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:06 AM   #27
 
Thanks Angel, that does help! Now I know what the hairgrssl will eventually look, like.

I went to get some playsand yesterday, but I've discovered that it looks dark yellow when dry, and brown not yellow when wet, strange. Maybe it's the lighting which will add colour to it?
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Old 05-12-2010, 02:40 PM   #28
 
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All I ever found was the white-gray like you see in the tank above and then the light brown sand. But YES the spectrum of your light definitely influences its looks; all my tanks are stocked with GE Daylights @ 6500K as I found this to be the best for plant growth....so just check and see what color (kelvin) you have on this tank. If its a Kelvin lower then 5,000K I'd recommend replacing anyway because of the plants, ideally you want as close to natural daylight for them as possible and these wanna-be aquarium bulbs sold in pet stores are often ~ 2,500K and that will not make your plants thrive (plus your fish colors will look "off" as well and not natural). So just check what you have there....
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Old 05-12-2010, 08:48 PM   #29
 
The problem is, I have a 460mm, 18", T8 lamp, I don't think they make such short lamps with 6500K output, or do they?

Found one, http://www.bltdirect.com/product.php...15+watt+18inch this would be a good lamp to promote plant growth?

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Old 05-12-2010, 09:14 PM   #30
 
I have Arcadia FF15 lamp, the specifications says it's a 7,500K lamp, that's a good news.
I was thinking of buying some java moss for the wood log and some ball moss so fare. The 2nd one looks really cool, have you had any experience with them, will it grow well in a playsand?
Thanks for your advice!
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