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The shotgun approach to planting a tank
Old 01-09-2013, 09:25 PM   #41
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The fish face was an accident... I thought it was cute though... Try to get that intentionally.... just trying to ge them still is hard enough.

I'm disappointed that the crypts aren't as obvious, I even forgot about them tucked in right in front of the swords. Seeing as they are low light and not very big I will probably move them over by the java ferns to display them a bit better.

I've gone from a "natural" idea of layout to a more display version. More people appreciate the display version and only I the natural, so that is where I am tending now I guess.

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Old 01-13-2013, 09:45 AM   #42
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The latest mods include a new plant, some dwarf pennywort looking plant, first pic.

I replanted the red ludwigia after letting it ride at the surface for a while, put it in a grouping more directly under one of the LED bulbs in the fixture and in the open. I may need to move them again as the swords expand.

I slid the 24" fixture off to the left to create a shade end and bright end of the tank without having to use floaters to get the effect.

Pennywort is back in the sand again, stems are trimmed properly, the node roots grew while it was floating so it will stay put better now and it is in the bright side of the tank.

Crypts are over on the shade side with the Java Fern.

I still don't like the look of the swords but they are not flagging, it's just the brown spots getting to me.

Pic of the current layout. Everything looks so staged, probably just due to nothing really spreading out yet, although I trimmed some of the Hygrophilia stems and planted the cuttings to fill the back in. Interestingly all of the new growth has larger leaves than the original growth, I think that may be due to lower lighting levels... produces larger leaf surfaces, very adaptable plant.

Oh, the tank, being a tall, probably lends to the seemingly barren look... more water space above the plants makes them look a diminutive. In hindsight, I would have gone for a 36" shorter tank. Next time.

I see in the picture (even in the reduced image) the snail tracks on the glass that aren't visible otherwise, I obviously need to give it a cleaning sometime.

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Old 01-13-2013, 12:08 PM   #43
 
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Looking very nice Jeff!!!
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:14 PM   #44
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Looking very nice Jeff!!!
Thanks. I should have waited a day to take the pic, the water has cleared up nicely now... Still looks rather yellow (driftwood tannins), but clear.

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Old 01-13-2013, 03:22 PM   #45
 
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Looks great, Jeff. The plants will fill in nicely. Of course, you can always get more.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:04 AM   #46
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Same plant....

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Looks great, Jeff. The plants will fill in nicely. Of course, you can always get more.
Oh yah. So far the plants are worth more than twice the fish... go figure.

Here is a pic of the group of Dwarf Hygrophila. I've already cut and replanted the top 10" or so. The large leaves in the foreground are some of the top stem that was replanted and the leaves are HUGE in comparison to the original stem, they are not out in front so it's not a trick of the camera. I have one more that is in need of pruning today... it's at the surface already. It won't be long before I am tossing these in the compost at this rate. Maybe I will start another tank...

I am assuming that the larger leaves might be due to a lower light situation than where the stems were grown, sort of an automatic compensation to provide more light receptive surface area for photosynthesis. I will plan on removing the original stems as they are looking a little haggard with the smaller leaves and more roots.


I did note that these appear to grow over night as well, not as much as during the day but definitely noticeable. Oh, the barbs have stopped munching on them now.

I notice a similar response in the red ludwigia, the new growth is green rather than red which indicates sort of the same thing, more green = more photosynthesis possible for the same surface area. I was concerned that these would languish in my light.

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Old 01-16-2013, 07:14 PM   #47
 
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Well, the plants look great and I see no other alternative than to get another tank to house your cuttings. Also, you might become a vendor to your LFS.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:22 PM   #48
 
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You can mail me some, I'm in Ontario too!
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:01 PM   #49
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Don't know about mailing plants.

I bought nine of those stems in the one bunch. If I cut them once a week and replant.... well, in two months I'll have over 500 plants... I guess I won't need to ever worry about ammonia in my tank.... ever. Glad I didn't get all excited and buy more bunches.

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Old 01-17-2013, 10:14 AM   #50
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Planting tip... roots only

I have been looking at planting and, specifically, the plants that I have in my tank so far.

It appears that the best piece of advice that I have seen so far is to only plant the roots of the plant below the surface of the substrate. I might think that this is more important with a sand substrate as it will reduce the water flow beneath the surface more than a gravel might. Leaving the sand up over some of the green stem part will promote rot and will kill the stem/branch/shoot. I have already seen this on a small level with my dwarf swords which I left floating until I figured out how to best situate them... they have been replanted about a week.

Now, while I am sitting at work, I am thinking that I still have some plants planted too deep... there are no signs of problems yet so they mustn't be deep enough for an immediate response but I plant on playing in the water tonight and pulling everything that is specifically substrate planted up out of the sand a bit more. Even just fanning off some of the sand might suffice. I need to rely more on the roots holding things in place as opposed to letting the sand do the work farther up the stem.

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