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This is a discussion on The shotgun approach to planting a tank within the Beginner Planted Aquarium forums, part of the Beginner Freshwater Aquarium category; --> Originally Posted by JDM The first is probably an Aponogeton crispus. The second is the freebie and looks VERY similar to the AC above ...

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The shotgun approach to planting a tank
Old 03-24-2013, 12:30 PM   #131
 
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The first is probably an Aponogeton crispus.

The second is the freebie and looks VERY similar to the AC above but is a different plant.... although maybe just a different variety of the Aponogeton. The plants it was with were much different so I don't think that was any indication.

Number three is a crypt, apparently also a Wendtii, although it looks different enough to be a different variety that's what keeps coming up. Perhaps it has to do with the leaf shape and wavey edges... any thoughts?

Number four is, well, I'm not certain where to start. I think a crypt of one form or another. The bunches have already got a few leaders sprouting green.
Plants in photos 1 and 2 [the front plant in 2] are Aponogeton species, photo 3 is Cryptocoryne, and I would agree 4 is prob Cryptocoryne. I'm not much on species epithets for these two genera, but the genus is usually distinctive.

Crypts have a rhizome, so one of these on the fourth would probably clinch it.
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Old 03-24-2013, 02:14 PM   #132
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Plants in photos 1 and 2 [the front plant in 2] are Aponogeton species, photo 3 is Cryptocoryne, and I would agree 4 is prob Cryptocoryne. I'm not much on species epithets for these two genera, but the genus is usually distinctive.

Crypts have a rhizome, so one of these on the fourth would probably clinch it.
Rhizome... really. Never noticed, it's obviously not the same as a java fern, those or pretty obvious. I attached another shot, the white root bits to the left are part of this same plant and they had started to green up before I got it.

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Old 03-24-2013, 03:12 PM   #133
 
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It is not always easy (to me anyway) to see the rhizome on crypts, but many times if you happen to dig up a plant that has been there for a while it is pretty obvious as it can be several cm in length. There are some photos here:
Structures: foliage, rhizome and roots in Cryptocoryne
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Old 03-24-2013, 05:38 PM   #134
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lovely new plants :D so green and crisp. hope they grow beautifully for you~

Ive stopped trying to ID my crypt after i realised that the person who gave it to the guy who gave it to me had no idea what it is himself:

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Old 03-24-2013, 07:25 PM   #135
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lovely new plants :D so green and crisp. hope they grow beautifully for you~

I've stopped trying to ID my crypt after i realised that the person who gave it to the guy who gave it to me had no idea what it is himself
I hope they stay healthy and grow.... although I didn't know that the aponogeton grew so tall.

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It is not always easy (to me anyway) to see the rhizome on crypts, but many times if you happen to dig up a plant that has been there for a while it is pretty obvious as it can be several cm in length. There are some photos here:
Structures: foliage, rhizome and roots in Cryptocoryne
Good link. The rhizome looks like it grows a node every year... that might imply a seasonal response and, seeing as our tanks don't see seasons, it could be that perhaps they don't typically produce them.

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Old 03-24-2013, 08:01 PM   #136
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Nothing much new this weekend, other than the quickly dropped in, due to having company, but we did manage to get the background on finally. I had to move the stand away from the wall an 1/8" to give us room do squeeze it in past the filter hoses... did that last change and took the opportunity to re-level everything

So here is a before, a week ago, and after, today. There is a week's worth of growth between but it's the black back that makes everything stand out while removing the cone shaped light spots on the wall as the black mylar doesn't show these.

A note on the growth... I will be doing full water tests tomorrow as I am interested to see where some of my parameters are now. The plants that typically really grow seem a little slower this past while, mainly the hygrophola, although they have grown about four inches.

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Old 03-24-2013, 11:11 PM   #137
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I think there's a certaincharm to low light tanks between the shadow and highlights which is lost inthe blinding brightness of iwagumi and high light scapes :) love the way it looks!
You might want to do some planning soon so that the growth doesn't get out of hand ^_^
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Old 03-25-2013, 07:42 AM   #138
 
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Rhizome... really. Never noticed, it's obviously not the same as a java fern, those or pretty obvious. I attached another shot, the white root bits to the left are part of this same plant and they had started to green up before I got it.

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That plant looks very similar to two plants I recently received on an online order. They were supposed to be Cryptocoryne Ciliata; however, the photo on the website didn't look much like what I received. To me, they look more like Cryptocoryne Pontederifolia but, again this is from a photo on the same website.
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Old 03-25-2013, 11:05 AM   #139
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That plant looks very similar to two plants I recently received on an online order. They were supposed to be Cryptocoryne Ciliata; however, the photo on the website didn't look much like what I received. To me, they look more like Cryptocoryne Pontederifolia but, again this is from a photo on the same website.
I thought the Pontederifolia initially but the leaf stem transition is not "indented".

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I think there's a certaincharm to low light tanks between the shadow and highlights which is lost inthe blinding brightness of iwagumi and high light scapes :) love the way it looks!
You might want to do some planning soon so that the growth doesn't get out of hand ^_^
I agree on the light. Subdued might be a term to use rather than low light. I know when I am underwater it is NEVER that bright. I know that most of the tropical scapes are not in much depth but even in shallow lakes it is not very bright.

Planning? you think I am not planning? Those last additions have only been dropped or stuck in temporarily. I do expect to prune out some of the dwarf hygros as they were originally aimed at rear coverage and initial maximum ammonia sinking. I will likely put half of those into the office tank and maybe one of the swords... they are going to be too large. This frees up some room for the new stuff and the new driftwood java fern plantation.

I will be changing my filter output to reduce the water movement which will free up some vertical space as the vals are growing more sideways than just up and over. I think I will compress some of the taller similar plants into tighter groupings leaving more group space for the crypts and new aponogetons and get the pennyworts growing up and over as well.

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Old 03-28-2013, 02:52 PM   #140
 
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maturing into quite the tank jdm makes me kick myself for getting this darn dual t5 light
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