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The shotgun approach to planting a tank
Old 03-21-2013, 04:17 PM   #121
 
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i have to admit i have/am learning alot fro your thread here, this and the other one about your jug. wanna throw out a thanks with the shraing you have done =) im slowly starting to make good intercit understanding of this whole thing again
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Old 03-21-2013, 04:21 PM   #122
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uh... maybe? lol

I'll let JDM give you the detailed analysis...

but there are alot of factors that can be changed, available lighting, CO2 and nutrients.
the tank will ALWAYS try to achieve a balance. the very reason why plants or fish die off, algae growth bacterial bloom.... it just means that they need to exit the equation for the tank to balance out.
Exactly, and paying attention to those details that might indicate a pending imbalance and having some idea of what might cause it and knowing what to do.... that can be tough but doesn't have to be. A gradual addition of plants and fish make it pretty easy.

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Old 03-23-2013, 07:52 PM   #123
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New plants, YAY!

Here are for new additions that I picked up yesterday. The store rep had no idea what they were so they were labelled as "plants".

That's OK.

I haven't decided where they are going nor have I split them up. I think I got good deals here as one was in with the $17 plants, tall leafy flowering affairs but it was very short. Rep one said that it was just a cutting from one of those that had not grown yet and was going to charge me full dollar for it.... I wasn't game and didn't think he was right. So I selected three others (they always do a buy three get four deal) and went looking around for number four. Rep one decided to pawn me off on rep two. Rep one seemed to know a few things but rep two was not knowledgeable at all. I brought him back to the plant in question and asked what he thought (this before I knew he knew nothing, probably a fish guy) and he didn't think it looked like the same thing and didn't know why it was in the expensive bin.... so whatever it was ended up being the freebie.

The first is probably an Aponogeton crispus.

The second is the freebie and looks VERY similar to the AC above but is a different plant.... although maybe just a different variety of the Aponogeton. The plants it was with were much different so I don't think that was any indication.

Number three is a crypt, apparently also a Wendtii, although it looks different enough to be a different variety that's what keeps coming up. Perhaps it has to do with the leaf shape and wavey edges... any thoughts?

Number four is, well, I'm not certain where to start. I think a crypt of one form or another. The bunches have already got a few leaders sprouting green.

All four had some decent root systems going on so they had been at the store some time, one of the crypts, shot three, was hiding in a tank all by itself. sometimes it pays to go looking in ALL of the tanks to see what forgotten well established plant may be there.

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Old 03-23-2013, 07:59 PM   #124
 
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first and second look liek Echinodorus major to me
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Old 03-23-2013, 08:10 PM   #125
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I don't think so, sword has larger wider and greener leaves. Might be easier to tell as they grow out.

"This is another relative hardy Aponogeton and thus well suited to the aquarium. This plant is sometimes seen under the common names "Ruffled Sword" or "Wavy Swordplant," but should not be confused with the true sword plants of the genus Echinodorus." From the profile here.

Maybe one is a sword, the second one, but even so the leaves are narrow and more pointed.

I am up to 19 active plant species in the aquarium, If two of my last addition are, in fact, different varieties. I'll see if the latest additions thrive.

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Old 03-23-2013, 08:25 PM   #126
 
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time will tell =)
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Old 03-23-2013, 09:29 PM   #127
 
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Beautiful new additions - really loving the texture those waves add to the leafs. . .
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Old 03-24-2013, 01:25 AM   #128
 
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Woah, your LFS charges SEVENTEEN dollars for plants? Holy crap, I would be broke after one plant haha. They do look gorgeous though, I've always been a sucker for ruffled leaves, they are so pretty.
Can't believe you still have room for plants ;)
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:52 AM   #129
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Most bunches are $6 and there are anywhere from two (swords) to ten (some stems). $17 or even $25 re for tall (already 24" with flowering stalk) plants. Buy 3 and get the 4th free for $6 is not bad.

I like the waves but everything was really large, although if these are what they seem to be, they will get as tall as a full grown sword, just narrower leaves.

There's always room for more plants.

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Old 03-24-2013, 08:03 AM   #130
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Well, trying to use the Internet to ID plants is a pain, particularly for the crypts. Same name has four or five different looking varieties even early in the search. I think I will just go with crypt green, red, 1, and 2, big and small.... now I sound like Dr Seuss.

Oh, I thought of another advantage of getting plants that have already established roots, they are more likely to be close to the size that they will end up and avoids those tiny plants that become behemoths when the store rep has no idea what it is and how it grows.

We are having company today so I can't do the gardening that I would like to do, split the new additions, put the new driftwood in (going to do a raised java fern garden with the daughter plants) shuffle a few others.

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