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post #101 of 222 Old 03-20-2013, 07:58 PM Thread Starter
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My daughter just said to me, "I want to look at the tank and see plants before I see fish".

She wants more plants so we're replanning the substrate coverage.

I have two driftwood pieces, the large mopani centre piece and the side Malaysian corner piece. I have a third that may become a java fern plantation but I don't want to put it on the bottom... Maybe suspended or supported from below to provide more cover for the catfish.... high enough to grow some small really low light plants underneath it.

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post #102 of 222 Old 03-20-2013, 08:36 PM Thread Starter
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hmmm I'm not sure. it does look kind of like pygmy chain sword....
Not sure, the more I look and compare the less sure I am as to what it is. It seems to have a longer stem part before the leaf spreads, but it's pretty narrow and pointy.

I'll take a better shot and post it tomorrow to see if anyone can tell.

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post #103 of 222 Old 03-20-2013, 08:50 PM
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Hmmm... this is my ex-parva.
yours look a little... stubbier?

edit: noticed pics were kinda blurry....
sharpened this one, not that I look at it, it doesnt really look like parva either o_O maybe persmart mislabelled it...


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...ps3714a0ed.jpg

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in this 2.5, right in the middle.
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post #104 of 222 Old 03-20-2013, 09:01 PM Thread Starter
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Those look leafier and undulated, mine is very "solid"... not quite the term I mean but more dense and narrow of leaf, smooth. I got some shots I'll post but I'll need to do it on th slap top or PC tomorrow.

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post #105 of 222 Old 03-21-2013, 07:26 AM Thread Starter
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OK, sword crypt ID time.

Here's all the best shots of these buggers... some from when I first got them and some now. Not much has changed growth wise... if anything I'd say they have receded somewhat.

The first shot gives an idea of their relative size, they are no larger now.

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Between the two choices, I'd say your plant is the Pygmy or Narrow Leaf Chain Sword. If so, they do like stronger light. Mine just gradually disappeared. I think the gravel substrate in that tank was the problem.

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post #107 of 222 Old 03-21-2013, 08:59 AM Thread Starter
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I've two choices with this plant.

If it is a sword, moving it up onto a driftwood to get it closer to the light which will increase the lux it receives. Either fill one of the hollows with sand or take it out and route out a trough for plants in such a way as it isn't obviously a man made setup.

If it's a crypt, move it into less light.

I just moved it into a position where it is no longer shaded over the weekend so I am going to stick with the original sword designation for now as it wasn't doing well under the full sized sword leaves... so I will see what it does with a bit more light.

It does look more swordish than cryptish.

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post #108 of 222 Old 03-21-2013, 09:05 AM
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My daughter just said to me, "I want to look at the tank and see plants before I see fish".

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Jeff.
Your daughter is wise beyond her years.

FWIW I have heard similiar amazing things after a newbie, just starting a tank added live plants. That's always very rewarding to me anyway.

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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #109 of 222 Old 03-21-2013, 09:09 AM Thread Starter
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Your daughter is wise beyond her years.

FWIW I have heard similiar amazing things after a newbie, just starting a tank added live plants. That's always very rewarding to me anyway.

worth much more then .02
Wise, maybe, prudent.....

My wife said that she wanted to see the fish... the plants were taking over the tank.

The dogs apparently have no opinion.

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post #110 of 222 Old 03-21-2013, 10:36 AM
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Where did you read about crypts not loving light?
I would move the poor plant around less XD the roots looks abused~
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