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Which Seachem products to get
Old 07-31-2009, 10:53 AM   #1
 
Which Seachem products to get

I had planned on getting Seachem flourish once my current fertlizer ran out. Seachem seems to be one of the best. I was going to go and get some root tabs today for some of my root feeder plants. Looking at seachems website I see there are a several products. There is Seachem flourish, iron, nitrogen, and phosphurous. Should I get all 4 of these? I was also wanting to try some of the Excel as an alternative to Co2. To get what I want out of my tank I aam thinking I need to add some sort of carbon. My plants seem healthy but groth has slowed down which is making me suspect something. My lighting should be fine and I have been dosing with the fertlizer I have. If anyone can help me decide what products to buy before I leave later today it would be great. Thanks.
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Old 07-31-2009, 11:00 AM   #2
 
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After much trial & error my fert routine is now Flourish, Flourish Excel and root tabs for my root feeders. I'm very happy with this routine, as are my plants. I'd say you could go this route and if need be change it up down the road if you don't see the results you expect.
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:13 PM   #3
 
flourish iron is unecessary unless you have a severe iron deficiency. otherwise flourish already has some iron in it. nitrogen id for if you are very understocked and your fish arent generating enough nitrates, same with phosphorous. excel is an excellent alternative to co2 injection. I use only flourish and excel currently but i have a bottle of iron that i never used since it even says on the label to not use unless theres a severe lack of iron in the water.
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:37 PM   #4
 
That sounds good, thanks again. Also sounds much better than buying 6 different things.
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Old 07-31-2009, 01:09 PM   #5
 
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Kym & SC have answered you and I concur. Somewhere on here I've explained the danger of dosing with individual fertilizers and won't repeat all that. Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive Plant Supplement has the macro- and micro-nutrients plants need and in the correct balance. For most plants that is all you need. Heavy root feeders like Echinodorus benefit from the root tabs, although here I do not use Flourish but Hagen/NutraFin's Plant-Gro sticks. I have proven success with these (quite incredible I must say) and they are much less expensive (half the cost) and last a year compared to 3 months for Seachem's tabs.

When you say the plants aren't growing as much, what exactly do you mean? Plants go through growth spurts especially in new tanks or when first introduced. Provided the water quality is stable growth will be consistent when they are settled although not as rapid as with mega-light and added CO2. Unless you want to propogate flowering plants I can't see the need.

Just occurred to me, that Seachem's website has a breakdown of the nutrients in their Flourish, quite a complete fertilizer. You'd be buying I don't know how many different things to match, and then it would be near impossible to get the balance between them. I prefer the simplistic approach when it is so thorough.

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Old 07-31-2009, 01:46 PM   #6
 
Havent yet found a carrier of excel but on my way to get some tabs and flourish. I may get the grow sticks if they have them. I saw another thread on here where a site was linked which had premade bottles for nitrogen and other nutrients, I cant find it, on my phone now but simplicity is good.
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Old 07-31-2009, 04:26 PM   #7
 
Appears they didn't have the flourish but they did have the excel, works out better for me I think. I'll finish the kent product that I have and order some of the flourish. Decided to replace one of my freshwater bulbs with a 10,000k light so now I have that, two 6700k, and one freshwater and it looks visually much better. I have a replacement freshwater now too. The only tabs they had were the seachem so I picked those up also. Picked up the materials to do the DIY Co2, think I will play with that tonite too. Thanks everyone for the help.

Oh this is the site I mentioned. Seems sleek but I wonder how good the product is.

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Old 08-01-2009, 08:46 AM   #8
 
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Appears they didn't have the flourish but they did have the excel, works out better for me I think. I'll finish the kent product that I have and order some of the flourish. Decided to replace one of my freshwater bulbs with a 10,000k light so now I have that, two 6700k, and one freshwater and it looks visually much better. I have a replacement freshwater now too. The only tabs they had were the seachem so I picked those up also. Picked up the materials to do the DIY Co2, think I will play with that tonite too. Thanks everyone for the help.

Oh this is the site I mentioned. Seems sleek but I wonder how good the product is.

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The products in the link are basically saying the same as what I posted earlier, a combination of nutrients in the correct balance. If you click the "Guaranteed Analysis" links you can see all the micro- and macro-nutrients that are in the stuff; much the same as the Flourish. I would think this works. The Kent comprehensive is the same (don't know if this is what you have, they also make several different things). Excel is just carbon, not the comprehensive nutrients. Some people use Excel in place of CO2.

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Old 08-03-2009, 10:11 AM   #9
 
There is one advantage of excel over CO2 injection, which is that the carbon in excel doesn't leave the water as readily as it does in a CO2 system. Liquid carbon stays in your water for longer. A DIY system is a fairly cheap solution, but since you have that you do not need excel, just make sure the system is releasing enough co2 for your plants.
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Old 08-03-2009, 10:33 AM   #10
 
I dont think that it does, Ive read people use about 3 of the 2 liters for a 55 gallon. I bought a nutrafin Co2 kit and didnt realize till it was set up that its for 20 gallons. I think Ill supplement it with excel. Ive not yet seen any bubbles from it and its coming on 48 hours. I think I am going to put together a pressurized system sometime with a 5lb tank and a 2 guage regulater, valve needle, and tubing. Also saw a siphon made into a Co2 diffuser or whatever the term is with a powerhead pushing watetr down as the Co2 rises through bioballs and filter floss. Think its about 150 or a bit more. Seems easier than constantly adding the excel.
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