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post #1 of 9 Old 08-09-2012, 10:30 AM Thread Starter
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SeaChem Flourish Questions!!

So I have seachem flourish (not excel) and I was wondering a few things.. I have hornwort, anubias, java fern, some duckweed and some marimo moss balls.
1. I read mixed opinions, will flourish harm the moss??
2. Can I add flourish to the tank even though there is carbon in the filter?
3. How much should I add? The tank is 5g.

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post #2 of 9 Old 08-09-2012, 11:29 AM
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Well for the second question.. Once you start fertilizing remove the carbon. The carbon will just suck up your ferts.. so you'll be wasting money on the carbon and wasting the fertilizer.
Are there not instructions on how much to dose on the bottle?

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post #3 of 9 Old 08-09-2012, 11:56 AM Thread Starter
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It says 5ml per 60 gallons.
Darnit. I don't know what to do with the cartridge then. I bought a box of 3 and they all have carbon!

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If the filter cartridge box is unopened, they may allow you to return it. Carbon removes several nutrients, not only some in the Flourish but even more importantly carbon as DOC (dissolved organic carbon) which is an essential macro-nutrient and must occur naturally so we like to keep all we can in the tank.

Flourish will not harm any plants. I have Java Moss prolific in my tanks.

As for the dose, 5ml is one teaspoon, so half a teaspoon would be 2.5 ml for 30g, so half again... I use a half teaspoon in my 10g twice weekly with no problems, so in a 5g i would say a 1/4 teaspoon once or twice weekly. Depends upon the plants, light, fish. Dose once the day following the water change (conditioners that detoxify heavy metals will also negate some of the minerals) and if needed again 3 days after that.

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It says 5ml per 60 gallons.
Darnit. I don't know what to do with the cartridge then. I bought a box of 3 and they all have carbon!

You should be able to cut along one area of the cartridge and empty out the carbon. I do it all the time for my smaller tanks.

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It says 5ml per 60 gallons.
Darnit. I don't know what to do with the cartridge then. I bought a box of 3 and they all have carbon!
You can buy filter media sponges for less or the same price as carbon filters. They have no carbon and you just rinse and put it back in and never buy another.

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post #7 of 9 Old 08-14-2012, 07:53 PM
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If my Benadryl influenced math is correct it's a little shy of a half of a milliliter. That would be around 1/10th of a teaspoon, again if my math is right. I certainly don't get out my graduated cylinders and my jr scientist chemistry kit to measure it out, however.

Byron, I didn't think marimo moss and java moss were the same plant but I could be mistaken. I believe marimo moss is actually an algae. I still can't believe it would harm them though.

As for the carbon, I agree with romad. It's usually not hard to remove the carbon with a little surgery.

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post #8 of 9 Old 08-17-2012, 11:04 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks guys for the responses!! (I still have no way of knowing how to connect my subscribed threads to my CP, anyone help?)

I think I'll take out the carbon pad that's in there and cut out the carbon. I already opened the box so I cannot return them.

Marimo moss is a type of algae, not moss. But I think I found another source which says Floursh won't harm it.

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Thanks guys for the responses!! (I still have no way of knowing how to connect my subscribed threads to my CP, anyone help?)
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