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Old 02-05-2014, 07:46 PM   #1
 
is river sand ok?

alright so I just went down to the pet store and bought a 75g aquarium with light/hood.. I don't wanna spend another 100$ on the bedding in the bottem of it so would sand from the river I live near be ok? its not as fine as sand from the ocean and the river doesn't run all year (about 3 months a year).. ive heard pool filter sand is good but I just blew a large chunk of money and don't wanna spend to much more.. im already looking at another 150$ for heater and décor, im going to be putting an Oscar and 1-2 tank mates in this tank
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:38 PM   #2
 
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I would just buy a 50 lb bag of playsand from Home Depot or Lowes. It's cheap, about $5 for a bag. I wouldn't risk using river sand, you're just never sure what critters, etc you may be bringing in. Just rinse the dust out of the playsand real good. I have it in 4 if my tanks and am real happy with it.
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:52 PM   #3
 
thanks, sorry didn't mean to put it in the planted section but ill go with the play sand :)
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Old 02-06-2014, 11:47 PM   #4
 
sand from the wild is ... the inorganics are easy enough to deal with,

the critters, worms, zooplankton, other, possible parasites.

if i left it at that everyone would run scared.
i have heard some advice on river sand, if there is fish known to live in it at all, you can expect the possibility of parasites that could infect your tank.

if there are no fish ... or any other critters we put in our tanks, it's a small gamble, but things side more on safe.

personally, if i ever do this, i want to see plants growing in the river/stream/whatever. ... to me that's a sign of healthy water, no toxins that would be killing anything

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oh ya, on another note, i would also expect phytoplankton to be present for sure, ... if it matters to you, then river sand will likely give your tank greenwater.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:16 PM   #5
 
The river has fish when it runs, but it gets HOT here when its not running and there are tons of plant life, the farmers around here pump the water for crops..
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:19 PM   #6
 
I live in the central valley California, 90% chance you've eaten produce from crops from my area
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Old 02-07-2014, 03:10 PM   #7
 
i've never tested, never tried sand/plants from the local steam where i live.

going by what i red awhile ago about fish in the river you're considering, ... the possibility of parasites increases because of the presence of fish in that water. the parasites know fish will be coming back and they can do their thing again.

now the reality, ... if it's a river, it's only got fish in it at one point in the year (spawning) and the rest of the year it's fresh water moving any parasites downstream till it runs clean and any parasites remaining die off because their hosts are not present.

i'm no expert, i'm just going off what makes sense to me, ... sure it's a good place to start, and science will show example of example of where i'm wrong, ... but science could also show examples of when i'm right.

if your only seeing fish during spawning season, then i'd say odds are more in your favor that it's all good

as for what you get from the river, ... i could expect various zooplankton, and phytoplankton, maybe bacterioplankton as well. if you're going to use whatever you get from the river as is.

if you're going to clean the sand (lots of water till it runs off clear) i'm sure at this point it will be clean of everything regardless what was in the sand to start with, dangerous or friendly, it's all going to be lighter than the sand itself and be washed out.

it's a lot of work and time

that's what the trade-off is, ... if you want to save a couple bucks go for it. if you think "hey, it's only a couple bucks get the playsand from the store, $5 for 50lb is rather cheap

regardless, (and because everyone has their own situation in life) just know what you're getting into and an idea of how far you want to go so you don't look back several months from now and go "oh damn, that really sucks"

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myself i'm considering the stream here because of the additional live it's got, ... it's got greenwater (i am noticing is present even now in the middle of the winter (a faint green tint in the water), it's got tiny zooplanktons (dono what kinds).

getting dirt from the stream this time of year i'm pretty sure i'm guaranteed to get resting eggs to ensure more zooplanktons, ... while these are small (from what i saw from a sample i took before) they're also live food

and enough will keep the greenwater in check if they reproduce fast enough.

but that's my interest, and many would freak if something like that was done to their tanks. ... for now it requires i do lots of research and even consider what plants i have in my tank so the line-of-sight is broken enough to give the zooplankton a fighting chance at surving
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:09 PM   #8
 
It's not that the fish are only there for spawning, the river goes DRY as in its only the sand bottem.. AND when its dry a local company comes and takes sand to resell (might be your play sand)
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:47 PM   #9
 
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Hey joker I'm in your neck of the woods kind of (sacramento area). I would be a little leary of runoff from the local farms. Pesticide runnoff may be a concern. Just something to take into consideration. :)
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:40 PM   #10
 
im about 45 mins from Fresno, in Hanford.. talking about the Kings River
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