Plants slowly dieing. - Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources
 1Likes
  • 1 Post By Stoke88
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 10 Old 06-06-2013, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Stoke88's Avatar
 
Plants slowly dieing.

I think I may have screwed up on this one. I read somewhere that putting small bits of clay into the bottom of the substrate will help the plants grow much better. Essentially clay is dirt so I thought " Yeah that sounds like it should work." Well I don't think so anymore. Since then all my plants have been slowly deteriorating. Everything but my anubias nana that is. I'm about to tear it down and start over because its just pitiful to say the least. But before I do does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do? I tried to dig out the clay but its mush and just clouds the tank. Any help is appreciated.

10g - Red Cherry Shirmp
20g long - SE Asia "Biotope"
30g - Jasper's (GF) Tank
75g - South American "Biotope"
Plenty of empties...
Stoke88 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 06-06-2013, 04:49 PM
TFK Moderator
 
SeaHorse's Avatar
 
Aquarium
Before you make any changes and while you are waiting for someone with "clay" experience.... what size tank? what light bulbs and time are they on? and what fertilizers are you using and when? Maybe it's not the clay.

Every kid, regardless of what they are going through, is ONE caring adult away from being a success story. ~ Josh Shipp, Teen Behavior Expert
SeaHorse is offline  
post #3 of 10 Old 06-06-2013, 04:56 PM
yeah what lights, ferts n substrate?
rexpepper651 is offline  
post #4 of 10 Old 06-06-2013, 05:00 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Stoke88's Avatar
 
Its a 75g with Aqueon T5 NO fixture with one 6500K daytime and one 6700K colormax on for 8hrs a day. I use Flourish comprehensive twice weekly and I have playsand for substrate. Nothing above has changed since the initial setup less than a year ago.

10g - Red Cherry Shirmp
20g long - SE Asia "Biotope"
30g - Jasper's (GF) Tank
75g - South American "Biotope"
Plenty of empties...
Stoke88 is offline  
post #5 of 10 Old 06-07-2013, 12:33 PM
Member
 
Byron's Avatar
 
Well, I don't see any problem with the light, nor the fertilizers. I'd be a bit surprised that adding balls of clay would do this so fast, but depending what the "clay" is, it is possible. Were the plants doing fine previously, and for a time (few months)? If yes, this would certainly tend to point at the problem being this clay. Can you tell us more about this product; perhaps a link to a website?

Byron.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
Byron is offline  
post #6 of 10 Old 06-10-2013, 08:03 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Stoke88's Avatar
 
Sorry for the delay in response everyone. I had a crazy weekend. Anyways to answer your qestions Byron, yes, everything was doing great prior to the clay being added. The clay is Amaco Mexican red clay. I've included a link at the bottom. Any further help is appreciated. Thanks.

Amaco Mexican Self-Hardening Clay, 5 Pounds, Red | Staples®

10g - Red Cherry Shirmp
20g long - SE Asia "Biotope"
30g - Jasper's (GF) Tank
75g - South American "Biotope"
Plenty of empties...
Stoke88 is offline  
post #7 of 10 Old 06-10-2013, 08:08 PM
Member
 
Byron's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoke88 View Post
Sorry for the delay in response everyone. I had a crazy weekend. Anyways to answer your qestions Byron, yes, everything was doing great prior to the clay being added. The clay is Amaco Mexican red clay. I've included a link at the bottom. Any further help is appreciated. Thanks.

Amaco Mexican Self-Hardening Clay, 5 Pounds, Red | Staples®
The link didn't work, but I searched online and found out a bit. This is modelling clay, not plant nutrient clay. It is meant to be used to model something and it hardens; under water it might leech who knows what. The fact that the plants demise began when this clay was added is suggestive.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
Byron is offline  
post #8 of 10 Old 06-10-2013, 08:19 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Stoke88's Avatar
 
So a tear down is a must at this point correct?

10g - Red Cherry Shirmp
20g long - SE Asia "Biotope"
30g - Jasper's (GF) Tank
75g - South American "Biotope"
Plenty of empties...
Stoke88 is offline  
post #9 of 10 Old 06-10-2013, 08:26 PM
Member
 
Byron's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoke88 View Post
So a tear down is a must at this point correct?
I probably would. Removing the lumps of clay might be sufficient, but if they have been leeching something then this something could be throughout the substrate. Toxins have a way of getting stuck on surfaces.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
Byron is offline  
post #10 of 10 Old 06-10-2013, 08:35 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Stoke88's Avatar
 
I'll just replace the $10 in sand. I'd rather do that then lose $100 in fish. Thanks Bryon.
rexpepper651 likes this.

10g - Red Cherry Shirmp
20g long - SE Asia "Biotope"
30g - Jasper's (GF) Tank
75g - South American "Biotope"
Plenty of empties...
Stoke88 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Dieing Plants :l taylor13 Beginner Planted Aquarium 13 06-30-2012 08:51 PM
A lot of plants are dieing in my tank...please help! Cornelius1208 Beginner Planted Aquarium 6 08-12-2010 11:52 PM
new plants are all dieing joe1992w Beginner Freshwater Aquarium 18 05-12-2010 02:26 PM
All fish are slowly dieing. No idea what's wrong. Insom Tropical Fish Diseases 12 07-22-2009 12:17 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome