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post #1 of 17 Old 12-13-2012, 02:27 PM Thread Starter
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Plants only tank.

My tank is becoming over grown with plants and it's time to start removing some of them. I want to put them in a 10g I have. My question is will they live with only Seachems Flourish and no fish. I really want to do this with equipment I have on hand and not buy any thing,(like root tabs). The main plant that needs to be reduced is Wisteria.P.S. My tap water comes with >.5ppm ammonia. Would this feed them if I did a weekly or bi-weekly water change?

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post #2 of 17 Old 12-13-2012, 02:50 PM
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My tank is becoming over grown with plants and it's time to start removing some of them. I want to put them in a 10g I have. My question is will they live with only Seachems Flourish and no fish. I really want to do this with equipment I have on hand and not buy any thing,(like root tabs). The main plant that needs to be reduced is Wisteria.P.S. My tap water comes with >.5ppm ammonia. Would this feed them if I did a weekly or bi-weekly water change?
I would think so since your tab water has ammonia in it. I would certainly try it. Better then just throwing way the trimmings and if it doesn't you haven't wasted any money. Just a little time and effort.

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I would think so since your tab water has ammonia in it. I would certainly try it. Better then just throwing way the trimmings and if it doesn't you haven't wasted any money. Just a little time and effort.
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post #4 of 17 Old 12-13-2012, 03:11 PM
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it wouldn't take many fish to keep the plants growing. And you could just use some kind of plastic tub instead of a tank as well. Perhaps some locals can harvest some fish from thier tanks. I did that with live bearers all the time. And the LFS has feeder guppies here for like 3/$1 or so.

or you could even collect some small fish from local streams and lakes.

just a thought.

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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/

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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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Plants love ammonia, so I would try it with the Flourish Comp and weekly water changes. Water changes for the ammonia and Flourish Comp to balance it out.

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This will work, though plant growth will likely be less than in a fish tank. I have a 20g that is my QT for new fish, and I keep it running permanently with plants culled from the other tanks. Right now it has been maybe 3 or 4 months without fish, and previously I have had it running for half a year or more without fish. I dose Flourish Comp 3 times weekly and do regular weekly water changes of 1/3 the tank just to keep it fresh, but I do not use water conditioner as there are no fish and plants will take up the chlorine.

I dose FC three times but that is because all my tanks get the same. I have very soft water and found that I need more than just once or even twice weekly.


I have noticed that the plants remain green and healthy, but they do not grow as fast--less spread on floaters, fewer runners on chain swords, etc.

Remember there is some nitrogen (= ammonium and nitrate) in Flourish Comp. Plus, you would be amazed at the amount of detritus that collects in the substrate even with no fish. I still don't know where it all comes from. Some is undoubtedly plant leaves that have fallen off and not been noticed. And I do have snails in this tank, Malaysian Livebearing and pond.

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When my 20L had plants and no fish, I fed the plants fish food (small amounts twice a week).

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When my 20L had plants and no fish, I fed the plants fish food (small amounts twice a week).
That's the solution, thank you.

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This will work, though plant growth will likely be less than in a fish tank. I have a 20g that is my QT for new fish, and I keep it running permanently with plants culled from the other tanks. Right now it has been maybe 3 or 4 months without fish, and previously I have had it running for half a year or more without fish. I dose Flourish Comp 3 times weekly and do regular weekly water changes of 1/3 the tank just to keep it fresh, but I do not use water conditioner as there are no fish and plants will take up the chlorine.

I dose FC three times but that is because all my tanks get the same. I have very soft water and found that I need more than just once or even twice weekly.


I have noticed that the plants remain green and healthy, but they do not grow as fast--less spread on floaters, fewer runners on chain swords, etc.

Remember there is some nitrogen (= ammonium and nitrate) in Flourish Comp. Plus, you would be amazed at the amount of detritus that collects in the substrate even with no fish. I still don't know where it all comes from. Some is undoubtedly plant leaves that have fallen off and not been noticed. And I do have snails in this tank, Malaysian Livebearing and pond.

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Awesome, I wanted snails in the tank but didn't think there would be food for them. With no water conditioner are the snails not affected by the chlorine? I assume no heater is ok for the plants and snails. The water would never get below about 70f.

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