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post #1 of 15 Old 12-28-2012, 11:23 PM Thread Starter
plants and lighting

ive decided to start researching and looking into adding real plants to my tank. nothing too crazy tho. i have a 50g tank with two 18in single bulb lights. i was looking online and found something better. its a 108watt dual bulb 48in light fixture its 6700k. would this light work for growing java moss,java ferns, amazon swords, water sprite and mini christmas moss? what kind of fertilizer tabs are going to work best? i was reading liquid fertilizer helps alge grow? is it true that you cant have aeration in a planted tank? im kind of fond of my 12in bubble wall and my 8in one as well but if need be it can go. i believe thats all the questions i can think of as of right now lol thanks for the help! i didnt think i was going to get so into this hobby when i first got my tank but its always seemed like it was missing something ya know like that natural look or something.
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post #2 of 15 Old 12-28-2012, 11:38 PM
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Yes that light should be fine! PM me if you need any more help or if you have questions! Good luck!!

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post #3 of 15 Old 12-29-2012, 12:46 AM
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That choice of lighting seems a little excessive (ok, a lot excessive) for what you want. I'd wait for Byron or Quantom, or a few others for some advice before going this route. I've been researching lighting for over a week and have been doing a back and forth with them and finally settled on a 36" dual T5 (normal output) 42W light. I ran this by my lfs guy before purchasing today and he said that this should work well for the plants I'm trying to keep (very similar to your list). I can tell you after putting it up today the differnace is incredible. And my tank is a bit deeper than yours. I have a 65 high which is 24 inches tall where I suspect yours is only 19 inches tall being a standard 50g.

I'm not an expert but just hope you get some more advice before purchasing.

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ive decided to start researching and looking into adding real plants to my tank. nothing too crazy tho. i have a 50g tank with two 18in single bulb lights. i was looking online and found something better. its a 108watt dual bulb 48in light fixture its 6700k. would this light work for growing java moss,java ferns, amazon swords, water sprite and mini christmas moss? what kind of fertilizer tabs are going to work best? i was reading liquid fertilizer helps alge grow? is it true that you cant have aeration in a planted tank? im kind of fond of my 12in bubble wall and my 8in one as well but if need be it can go. i believe thats all the questions i can think of as of right now lol thanks for the help! i didnt think i was going to get so into this hobby when i first got my tank but its always seemed like it was missing something ya know like that natural look or something.
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post #4 of 15 Old 12-29-2012, 01:04 AM
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I had a 55 gallon tank setup with the same light fixture pretty much. I could grow lots of different plants in that tank with exception of plants that needed really bright lights. That fixture will be fine with what plants you are wanting grow. Though in my experience with my setup I found the lights being a little too bright and had to have floating plants to shade the tank for the fish plus it helped with algae on some of the slower growing plants like the Java fern you are thinking about.

Liquid fertilizer can feed algae yes but only if you dose too much for the plants to use. There is a balance there that one has to find. You will always have some algae in a tank the key is to have it under control where the plants are thriving and the algae is barely surviving. With that said plants need some form of nutrients in the water column. A well balanced liquid fertilizer is a easy way to achieve this. Seachems Flourish Comprehensive is one that a lot of ppl use. The Seachems line also have a root tab that is good.

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post #6 of 15 Old 12-29-2012, 01:38 AM Thread Starter
way to go double posting jeeze! yeah i want to use the water sprite as top water floater i was told it it grows pretty well on top. i want to give my angels some top cover. right now they are always hiding around the filter pump housing and tank.
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post #7 of 15 Old 12-29-2012, 08:36 AM
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IMHO the key is 1.5-2 watts per gallon of ~6500K lighting.

I think you will be fine.

(BTW I just use home depot/wallmart type lighting)


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #8 of 15 Old 12-29-2012, 09:02 AM Thread Starter
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IMHO the key is 1.5-2 watts per gallon of ~6500K lighting.

I think you will be fine.

(BTW I just use home depot/wallmart type lighting)


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i was thinking about that cuz i remember back in the day i had gotten a single bulb fixture for 26 dollars couldnt i just get a bulb for that? i was looking at getting this right here off ebay T5 Dual 48" HO Aquarium Light Strip Cichlid Marine Tropical Fish 108W 55g 2 Bulb | eBay
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i was thinking about that cuz i remember back in the day i had gotten a single bulb fixture for 26 dollars couldnt i just get a bulb for that? i was looking at getting this right here off ebay T5 Dual 48" HO Aquarium Light Strip Cichlid Marine Tropical Fish 108W 55g 2 Bulb | eBay
i think what im going to do is get a dual light fixture from home depot and 6500k bulbs and build a box to mount them in that will sit on the top of my tank
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post #10 of 15 Old 12-29-2012, 11:19 AM
Just realize the Home depot fixtures are normal output T5's not high output ones.

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