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post #1 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 03:54 PM Thread Starter
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Plants are having a hard time?

I am very close to considering digging out my sand, putting in potting soil and putting some of the previous sand ontop of it. Maybe I'm just impatient, but it almost appears that my plants are having a hard time. My Hornwort seems to be slowly disappearing, my cabomba leaves aren't regrowing/only 1 stem is growing, but it's not producing more leaves..., my corckscrew val seems to be doing okay, but I've just planted them and my ruffled sword seems to be thriving. The Java Moss I got just last weekend. So far I'm not seeing any signs of it dying on me.

The only thing that seems to be thriving is the ruffled sword and salivina. Maybe a month? ago I added in 2 flourish tablets. The sword got a whole tablet and I spilt 1 in 3s for the cabomba.I also add liquid fert maybe once a week.

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post #2 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 04:05 PM
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What lighting do you have, and do you know the hardness of your water?

I grew Camboba fairly well under low/moderate lighting, but it does prefer higher light - especially if you want it to keep that nice bushy appearance. With lower light, it tends to get leggy. Hornwort, in my experience, doesn't fare very well in soft water, unless it's in a cycling kind of situation. . . Vals didn't like my soft water, either!

Hopefully someone with more experience will be around soon to give you a better picture of what the problem could be - before you tear your tank apart! Plants can be frustrating when they don't play nice :)
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post #3 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 04:13 PM Thread Starter
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I have 2 T8s 48" and 6,500k

My water is medium hard. It rated as 180 on PetsMart's test strips. They use Tetra test strips.

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post #4 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 04:21 PM
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*shrugs* I tried! I hope you get it figured out. . .
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post #5 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 04:45 PM
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welcome to plants =)

adding the sopil underneat will add organics to the substrate that will decompose and add nitrate and natural Co2. I too have hard water as hard if not more then yours.

I assume you are doing a 55 gal here, the lighting is perfectly fine.

as far as your Cambodia goes it lieks the softer water like chesh was saying 7.5 higest ph reccd. with ur hardness I assume yours is over that. it also likes higher lighting. im gunna have to say that its not a good match for your tank. not enough light/co2. but that's ok live and learn.

as far as the hornwort goes persoanlyl I hate the crap. ive never had luck with this in any of my tanks long term. ive had it in low light tanks and high light tanks still same result. same with most of ambulia species that's ive tried they just don't work for me. If I were you I would stick to ferns crypts and swords and try some bacopia if you want to try stems. theres tons of variations of bacopia but some have luckl with it with lighting similar to yours. I would also recommend some water sprite. mine will pearl at w/c for like 2 hrs it also grows at light speed and is very very easily propogated. im almost to the point of throwing some out and ive only had it about a month.

one thing to keep in mind - not every plant is going to work in your tank even some lowlight plants may fail on you. just kinda have to take shots in the dark with plants that should work well with your setup. each system is unique and so are the plants that will flourish in them.
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post #6 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 05:07 PM
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Putting a layer of soil is not likely to make any difference, as there are most likely other factors at work.

More data as others have sugested is needed in order to pin down the likely factors. What is the GH, and pH? [Mitch referenced these, but I can see no numbers in this thread.] What is the daily duration of the tank light? And, are you using any liquid fertilizers [I saw the substrate tab mentioned--this will help the sword as it seems to be doing, but will have no benefit for Cabomba]?

Using your Aquariums Log, I assume this is the 75g with the group of angelfish, correct? If that bubbler is still operating, I would remove it. I believe that will drive CO2 out faster, and there are not a lot of fish contributing organics to increase the CO2. Do you vacuum the substrate? And how often are water changes, and what volume?

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post #7 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 06:21 PM Thread Starter
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The tank is 75 gallons and it is cycled. So I don't really do any water changes. In the beginning I did them to vacuum up the needles/diatoms that I shook off the hornwort. PH is 7.5 Oh man! I accidentally gave you guys the KH number! the 180 is alkalinity my hardness is 75.

Remember, these are the results I got from PetsMart. My solutions ran out/I just put in an order for them online.


My lights are typically on from 10:30/11am to 10:30-ish pm.

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post #8 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 06:24 PM Thread Starter
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Oh yeah, right now the tank has the 6 angels(fed twice daily), 7 kuhlis, 2 amanos and 1 rubberlip pleco. 6 of those kuhlis are gonna be traded in at my local fish store for some stripes(if they can order them in)

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post #9 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 07:00 PM
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since your not doing w/c (shame on you) the plants are missing trace which they can get some from tap water which is replenished by w/c. Byron im sure can get more specific on your water chemistry
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post #10 of 24 Old 04-11-2013, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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I top off my tank every week. When I did water changes in my betta's tank the plants seemed to do worse.

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