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post #1 of 42 Old 04-20-2012, 06:46 AM Thread Starter
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Getting ready to order plants for the 125 gallon, will probably get that done within the next day or two so they can get shipped Monday. I don't have a local store that sells plants sadly :( Well, beyond a very limited selection at Petsmart (only 4 kinds).

Anyone see anything that could be a problem? I'd like everything to do 'okay' in lower light because I will be having a floating plant cover.

Anubias coffefolia
Anubias Congensis
Anubias hastifolia
Chilensis
Pygmy chain sword
Cryptocoryne undulata
Java Fern
Java Moss
Melon Sword
Radican Sword
Spiralis
Echinodorus martii
Water Sprite (floating)
Cryptocoryne crispatula

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post #2 of 42 Old 04-20-2012, 08:13 AM
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That's a pretty penny you're gonna pay. I hate ordering plants online, the shipping prices are ridiculous
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post #3 of 42 Old 04-20-2012, 08:48 AM Thread Starter
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Not always, a couple of sellers on ebay charge $6, plus a quarter or so for each additional plant. USPS Priority Mail is pretty inexpensive and delivers in 1-2 days, sometimes 3. Flat rate boxes are golden.

I've found a larger online retailer that is a flat $13 regardless of how many plants you buy, that's for 2nd day FedEx. Live aquaria, same people as dr. foster & smith that several people use.

There is a LFS that's not so local, over an hour drive away, but they charge roughly twice the going rate online plus cost of gas so even with shipping it's not such a bad deal when buying so many.

But for 1 or 2 plants, I agree, online isn't worth it.
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Getting ready to order plants for the 125 gallon, will probably get that done within the next day or two so they can get shipped Monday. I don't have a local store that sells plants sadly :( Well, beyond a very limited selection at Petsmart (only 4 kinds).

Anyone see anything that could be a problem? I'd like everything to do 'okay' in lower light because I will be having a floating plant cover.

Anubias coffefolia
Anubias Congensis
Anubias hastifolia
Chilensis
Pygmy chain sword
Cryptocoryne undulata
Java Fern
Java Moss
Melon Sword
Radican Sword
Spiralis
Echinodorus martii
Water Sprite (floating)
Cryptocoryne crispatula

Thanks!
Wow nice selection of plants. It will all turn out really well. Let me know how the pygmy chain sword works out for you.

From what I see all your plants should do fine, none that require super high light under the floating that I could see. What kind of lights are you running on the 125?

Get a picture up when you get stuff set up! :)
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post #5 of 42 Old 04-20-2012, 11:32 AM Thread Starter
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I have a 48" dual T8, both with 6500K bulbs. That leaves 12" on each side with no direct light. Might try to find a dual 24" fixture, but need a shop light with a reflector so the tubes don't touch the glass. I don't have enough mechanical know how to buy a larger fixture and cut it to size.
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Anyone see anything that could be a problem? I'd like everything to do 'okay' in lower light because I will be having a floating plant cover.

Anubias coffefolia
Anubias Congensis
Anubias hastifolia
Chilensis
Pygmy chain sword
Cryptocoryne undulata
Java Fern
Java Moss
Melon Sword
Radican Sword
Spiralis
Echinodorus martii
Water Sprite (floating)
Cryptocoryne crispatula
Is this a fixed list they provide, or can you add/remove plants? If the latter, I would suggest adding the basic sword, Echinodorus bleherae (or E. bleheri if they use the incorrect original spelling of Amanda Bleher`s name) likely the name, or Echinodorus amazonicus, this is a good plant in larger tanks. Three of this would be good.

I`ve had mixed results with the sword hybrids, likely due to light. One that does well in this regard is Echinodorus cordifolius. For all I know, this may be what they term Melon or something. It is in our profiles. You can see this 9and the E. bleheri) in the photos of my 115g.

Spiralis presumably is a Vallisneria. This genus is mixed up in names, as noted in our profiles of the two species--and there are only two, except for the one in Australia. Only comment here is water, they will not do well in soft water. Mine are basically dwindling.

Echinodorus martii is actually Echinodorus major though some still use the other name following Rataj. Needs a bit more light, but I have it in my 115g and 70g. One plant actually sent out an inflorescence which is very rare, and flowered, even rarer in aquaria for this species, and I got half a dozen adventitious plants but they have been very slow growing even with Flourite. But I have had this plant massive, not sure why it slowed recently, though the one in the 115g seems to be picking up again. It`s in the back right corner in the photo.

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It's not a fixed list, just a selection that they have that I liked what I saw. The scientific name for the Spiralis is Cryptocoryne spiralis. If it really is a crypt I thought it would do well in lower light. If it is a vall it wouldn't work as you say due to my soft water. It does look like a Vall though.

They do have Echinodorus amazonicus.

The Melon Sword they list as Echinodorus osiris. The Radican is Echinodorus cordifolius which is what you mentioned.
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It's not a fixed list, just a selection that they have that I liked what I saw. The scientific name for the Spiralis is Cryptocoryne spiralis. If it really is a crypt I thought it would do well in lower light. If it is a vall it wouldn't work as you say due to my soft water. It does look like a Vall though.

They do have Echinodorus amazonicus.

The Melon Sword they list as Echinodorus osiris. The Radican is Echinodorus cordifolius which is what you mentioned.
Yes, you have to watch common names, they are only "common" to the people using them.

The Radican is superb, I love this plant. I have one that is now over 14 years old, and I have two adventitious plants from it that are now larger. They are the two in the middle on either side of the standing wood in the photo below. The original I nearly killed by placing it in the flow from the filter [and some say water flow has no impact on plants...] but when I saw what was happening I moved it to the far right front, and happily it now has three new but smaller leaves so it is rebounding.

The Melon is hit and miss; I have one in my 70g with slightly more light and the Flourite, and it is not doing at all well after 3 years. But for two years it was nice, not as healthy as the others swords though, perhaps due to light. But still worth trying, as it has distinctive leaves.

There is a Cryptocoryne spiralis. When i googled "Spiralis" previously to find out what it might be, Vallisneria spiralis popped up everywhere so I assumed...

In the photo the E. bleherae are along the back. They are doing much better now with the GH up to 6 dGH with Equilibrium. I nearly lost all these due to lack of calcium and excess of iron. A year ago they were at the surface, before the calcim/iron issue began when my dolomite ran out.

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post #9 of 42 Old 04-20-2012, 12:45 PM Thread Starter
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I do like how the E. cordifolius has the long stocks, I'll certainly be getting one of those.

Speaking of filter flow... where should I put the spray bar? Back wall, or side? And pointed out, angled down, or straight down? I'll probably have a piece of driftwood in that area with Java Fern on it.
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Wow! I can't wait to see the finished or even "in progress" tank. Sounds amazing. I had little luck with the E. cordifolius. I had 4 of them and lost all 4. I too liked the longer stems as it just gave a different appearance. I see I still have a root in the back and it appears to be doing something so... maybe it will make a come back?

Geo have you ordered through Liveaquaria before? I always wondered. I have ordered several things through Dr. Foster's and Smith and had excellent customer service, was happy with the shipping and the quality for the money.

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