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Now that I have plants. What will I need now?

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Now that I have plants. What will I need now?
Old 05-09-2012, 01:54 PM   #21
 
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Ok so how much should I need? Like to stick with the fixtures themselves, but if I need to get new flourescent bulbs, which kind, the hight ouput t-8s?
There isn't much you can do without going to a new light fixture. You have T8, so only T8 tubes will fit, i.e., not T5. And all T8 tubes are made in basic wattages for the tube length, example a 24-inch tube is 20w usually--though some tubes will produce a bit more intense light and/or may use less energy (the watts) to do it, depending upon how they are made. Using full spectrum/cool daylight will be your best option, and from the photos that seems to be what you have.

What is the make of the current tubes? I might be able to suggest some better tubes, depending.

The light looks good in the photos, but that can be deceiving. The Anubias and Java Fern will be fine, and the moss. The Echinodorus (swords) probably, I have had these grow fairly well in tanks with comparable lighting. The stem plants will be iffy, beinig fast growers they need more light and nutrients, and red leaf plants need more light too.

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Old 05-09-2012, 02:01 PM   #22
 
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There isn't much you can do without going to a new light fixture. You have T8, so only T8 tubes will fit, i.e., not T5. And all T8 tubes are made in basic wattages for the tube length, example a 24-inch tube is 20w usually--though some tubes will produce a bit more intense light and/or may use less energy (the watts) to do it, depending upon how they are made. Using full spectrum/cool daylight will be your best option, and from the photos that seems to be what you have.

What is the make of the current tubes? I might be able to suggest some better tubes, depending.

The light looks good in the photos, but that can be deceiving. The Anubias and Java Fern will be fine, and the moss. The Echinodorus (swords) probably, I have had these grow fairly well in tanks with comparable lighting. The stem plants will be iffy, beinig fast growers they need more light and nutrients, and red leaf plants need more light too.

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I'm not sure of the brand or type of lights I have, other than they are T-8s and 24 inches.

"The light looks good in the photos," --- thats what I was thinking too, but I really know nothing about the different types of lighting and such.

"The stem plants will be iffy, beinig fast growers they need more light and nutrients, and red leaf plants need more light too" --- I placed 2 of those fixtures on the side the stem plants were on, expecting that they needed more light.

I cannot really afford a whole new lighting fixture at the moment, but if I can get better bulbs, then I can do that. I will post the brand and type when I get home this evening.
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Old 05-09-2012, 02:21 PM   #23
 
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I'm not sure of the brand or type of lights I have, other than they are T-8s and 24 inches.

"The light looks good in the photos," --- thats what I was thinking too, but I really know nothing about the different types of lighting and such.

"The stem plants will be iffy, beinig fast growers they need more light and nutrients, and red leaf plants need more light too" --- I placed 2 of those fixtures on the side the stem plants were on, expecting that they needed more light.

I cannot really afford a whole new lighting fixture at the moment, but if I can get better bulbs, then I can do that. I will post the brand and type when I get home this evening.
Just look on the tubes, at one end will be some printing, that will give you the make/manufacturer, watts, sometimes Kelvin, and whatever.

If this were me, I would go with what you have (maybe different tubes, that will come later). Over a period of several weeks it will be obvious how the plants are responding. Nothing is cut in stone. One can read very knowledgeable sources say that you can't grow dwarf hairgrass or baby tears without "x" amount of light and CO2, but there are members on here who have grown this plant successfully and well with no CO2 and less light. Sometimes other factors play into the equation. I have tried many plants over the years, and many will not last in my tanks; I stay with what does well for what I am prepared to provide in terms of light (and no CO2). This is what I call working with nature rather than against nature. Same principle applies in gardening. My back yard is relatively shady, and sun-loving plants just will not last. So I grow shade palnts that do. And the garden is rich and virbrant--but you won't find sunflowers and daisies out there.
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Old 05-09-2012, 11:03 PM   #24
 
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Heres the what I got from the bulbs:

Aqueon Full Spectrum 17w t8 24" Hg A 38/11 x2

Esu Reptile Super UV daylight f15 t8 bp Uv-a uv-b x1
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:01 AM   #25
 
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The Aqueon tubes are 8000K.

The reptile bulb is putting off UV light :S Better get the fish some sunscreen! I'd replace that tube.

24" T8 are actually 17W, I believe 20W are for the older T12's. Byron can let you know what ones are good for plants that you'll find in a petstore. Hardware stores (where I live) don't carry daylight tubes for a 24" T8, I ended up buying them online from eBay (the thread about that is on this same forum if you want to check it out). But Petstores carry them, I just don't know which name it's called.
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:18 AM   #26
 
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Agree, lose the reptile tube. And as the other may be getting old (tubes should be replaced regularly, T8 I find lose intensity significantly between 12 and 15 months) might as well replace all. You want T8 that are the same length as your present tubes (24 inches).

At this point you can go with the less expensive "daylight" tubes that will be available from some hardware-type stores or the more expensive special tubes available from fish stores.

GE, Phillips and Sylvania make tubes having a 6500K rating and these work well. I use GE and Phillips along with my Life-glo. The main thing here is the 6500K.

For fish store tubes, I have Life-Glo which has a 6700K rating. There is also ZooMed's Ultra Sun at 6700K, slightly less expensive. These two I know and they are good. I have not tried the CoralLife 50/50 but others have said they seem to work.

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Old 05-10-2012, 09:32 AM   #27
 
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Agree, lose the reptile tube. And as the other may be getting old (tubes should be replaced regularly, T8 I find lose intensity significantly between 12 and 15 months) might as well replace all. You want T8 that are the same length as your present tubes (24 inches).

At this point you can go with the less expensive "daylight" tubes that will be available from some hardware-type stores or the more expensive special tubes available from fish stores.

GE, Phillips and Sylvania make tubes having a 6500K rating and these work well. I use GE and Phillips along with my Life-glo. The main thing here is the 6500K.

For fish store tubes, I have Life-Glo which has a 6700K rating. There is also ZooMed's Ultra Sun at 6700K, slightly less expensive. These two I know and they are good. I have not tried the CoralLife 50/50 but others have said they seem to work.

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I wont replaced them all. because they are practicly brand new, but I will replaced the reptile bulb.
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