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post #11 of 32 Old 02-24-2012, 08:24 PM Thread Starter
Definately. Pretty much my mantra is that any animal I take into my care I want to be able to give the best care I can. With that said, if I were to get an algae eater of some sort, it'd be because I like the fish as a whole (eg, I really like the behavior and appearance of different pleco subspecies) and the fish's diet would be suplemented as neccesary - the fact that it may help the tank is a plus, but not the sole reason for the fish being there. However, like you and others have said, there isn't much room for a fish with a big bioload that will possibly outgrow it's habitat. I realize that, as a college student, I only have so much room, money, and time and therefore will not get a fish that I won't be able to give adequate space or care if/when it needs it. If there's one thing being into reptiles has taught me, it's to do your research first - far to many animals have ended up dead, in horrible living conditions, or in a rescue because people didn't do the proper research (just look at the invasive snakes in the 'glades - it's bad). Sorry for the rant - proper care and advocasy for it are my thing.
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post #14 of 32 Old 02-25-2012, 11:21 AM
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Yes, well said and an excellent maxim.

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post #15 of 32 Old 02-25-2012, 11:35 AM
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I love hornwort, and its easy! I saved the handle of an old long handled aquarium scrubber, and it had the little fork tip on the end for burying decorations in the gravel. I stick that in and among the hornwort and jostle it around a little bit. The muck and dead leaves (if there are any, usually not) float out and get filtered. Takes me about 5 seconds. Though I do recommend thinning out the bottom of the hornwort stems before you put them in your tank. They are magnets for dirt.
I used floating hornwort...they were great ! But suddenly they became brown and lost all their leaves and I had to toss 'em I guess cleaning up was a pain then. I am not sure what went wrong...not enough nutrients? too much light? I guess I'll try again.
By the way beetlebz, I loove your tanks.
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post #16 of 32 Old 02-25-2012, 11:47 AM
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I noticed almost all of the hornwort I bought turned dark and ugly, but I got rid of most of it and the new growth is just fine! Im wondering that if it was so near the surface it was getting too much light vs the nutrients available. I dose every 3 days or so with flourish comprehensive and have my hornwort in the gravel, now its booming!

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thanks :)

I noticed almost all of the hornwort I bought turned dark and ugly, but I got rid of most of it and the new growth is just fine! Im wondering that if it was so near the surface it was getting too much light vs the nutrients available. I dose every 3 days or so with flourish comprehensive and have my hornwort in the gravel, now its booming!
Aha ! I'll plant mine. Also, I only dose once a week with the recommended amount. I heard that hornwort is nutrient intensive...mebbe thats a key thing to consider as well. I'm gonna try out both floating and planted with dosing every 3 days and see what I find.
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post #18 of 32 Old 02-25-2012, 12:14 PM
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Definately. Pretty much my mantra is that any animal I take into my care I want to be able to give the best care I can. With that said, if I were to get an algae eater of some sort, it'd be because I like the fish as a whole (eg, I really like the behavior and appearance of different pleco subspecies) and the fish's diet would be suplemented as neccesary - the fact that it may help the tank is a plus, but not the sole reason for the fish being there. However, like you and others have said, there isn't much room for a fish with a big bioload that will possibly outgrow it's habitat. I realize that, as a college student, I only have so much room, money, and time and therefore will not get a fish that I won't be able to give adequate space or care if/when it needs it. If there's one thing being into reptiles has taught me, it's to do your research first - far to many animals have ended up dead, in horrible living conditions, or in a rescue because people didn't do the proper research (just look at the invasive snakes in the 'glades - it's bad). Sorry for the rant - proper care and advocasy for it are my thing.
Once you get brown/green algae you can consider getting otocinclus catfish. They're small and do a great job of cleaning leaves and glass. Also, I love how they sit on leaves...almost like a bird perched on a tree However, you need to make sure there's algae in your tank because they are constantly eating. Otherwise, toss in a slice of fresh zucchini.
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Aha ! I'll plant mine. Also, I only dose once a week with the recommended amount. I heard that hornwort is nutrient intensive...mebbe thats a key thing to consider as well. I'm gonna try out both floating and planted with dosing every 3 days and see what I find.
I would caution on using Flourish Comprehensive in excess of the recommended dose. The amount they specify is intended once or at most twice a week. While I'm not saying more is definitely harmful, it is adding more metals which are toxic, and continued you might exceed the plant's capability to take these up either as nutrients, or store for nutrients, or a detoxifying. And once some nutrients become excessive, they can affect plant growth in various ways, and fish.

Balance is the key.

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Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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post #20 of 32 Old 02-26-2012, 02:28 PM
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I would caution on using Flourish Comprehensive in excess of the recommended dose. The amount they specify is intended once or at most twice a week. While I'm not saying more is definitely harmful, it is adding more metals which are toxic, and continued you might exceed the plant's capability to take these up either as nutrients, or store for nutrients, or a detoxifying. And once some nutrients become excessive, they can affect plant growth in various ways, and fish.

Balance is the key.
Thanks for the note on balance Byron.
Yesterday while giving my weekly dose of Flourish Comprehensive, I noticed that the side of the bottle mentioned about other Flourish ferts for the macronutrients like potassium. Have you ever needed to used them?
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