my plants are turning brown - Page 5 - Tropical Fish Keeping - Aquarium fish care and resources
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #41 of 49 Old 02-13-2013, 02:18 AM
ao
Member
 
ao's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklick View Post
I have Eco complete as the gravel. I also have a big piece of driftwood bought at a local pet store years ago so that's not it.

Could it be the manzanita branches I have in there? I have some Christmas fern growing on it so it looks like a tree. I don't think these were prepped prior to putting them in the tank.

I can't think if anything elsi that it could be.

I did use some pond salt months ago. I can't remember why though. I'm wracking my brain as to why I was using it. It was prior to plants though. Should I do a 75 percent water change?

Sorry for any typos . I'm using my phone and autocorrect gets me everytime
can u measure TDS? you can get a TDS meter off ebay for like...$10. that way you will know whether you have salt in the water. but if you chane your water reglarly, the salt should be present in insignificant amounts....

wood will not increase the hardness of the water, usually it's a decoration or seashells, coral... etc, maybe in your case it's the eco complete.
try filling two cups with tap water. one cup with 1in or so of eco complete...
test the water over the next few days.. then you'll know :)
ao is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #42 of 49 Old 02-13-2013, 10:16 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
Ok. I''ll try that when we get home from vacation in a few weeks

Quote:
Originally Posted by aokashi View Post
can u measure TDS? you can get a TDS meter off ebay for like...$10. that way you will know whether you have salt in the water. but if you chane your water reglarly, the salt should be present in insignificant amounts....

wood will not increase the hardness of the water, usually it's a decoration or seashells, coral... etc, maybe in your case it's the eco complete.
try filling two cups with tap water. one cup with 1in or so of eco complete...
test the water over the next few days.. then you'll know :)
Posted via Mobile Device
aklick is offline  
post #43 of 49 Old 02-26-2013, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Well it's the Eco complete. I tested tap water and the PH was fine. Took tap water and added Eco Complete and the PH went through the roof. Looks like I will be getting a different gravel. Any suggestions? is Sand safe? I want something that my plants will like and something that won't limit the kind of fish I can have in the tank.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aokashi View Post
can u measure TDS? you can get a TDS meter off ebay for like...$10. that way you will know whether you have salt in the water. but if you chane your water reglarly, the salt should be present in insignificant amounts....

wood will not increase the hardness of the water, usually it's a decoration or seashells, coral... etc, maybe in your case it's the eco complete.
try filling two cups with tap water. one cup with 1in or so of eco complete...
test the water over the next few days.. then you'll know :)
aklick is offline  
post #44 of 49 Old 02-26-2013, 01:12 PM
Member
 
Byron's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklick View Post
Well it's the Eco complete. I tested tap water and the PH was fine. Took tap water and added Eco Complete and the PH went through the roof. Looks like I will be getting a different gravel. Any suggestions? is Sand safe? I want something that my plants will like and something that won't limit the kind of fish I can have in the tank.
I had Flourite substrate in my 70g and was surprised that the pH remained around 7.2, whereas the other tanks run in the mid 6's. Flourite and Eco-Complete are much the same.

I am wondering if this could be the issue though. When you test the tap water, do you outgas the CO2? Shaking the water vigorously for a couple minutes will do this, or letting it sit 24 hours. The pH reading after will be more reliable as the CO2 (which causes carbonic acid and lower pH) will be outgassed.

Sand works well, I replaced my Flourite with play sand about 3 weeks ago, and now have sand in 6 of 7 tanks. Quikrete Play Sand is what I use, available at Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Two bags would be more than enough for a 55g tank.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
Byron is offline  
post #45 of 49 Old 02-26-2013, 01:17 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Oh oops. I didn't let it sit. I"ll do that when I get home this weekend!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron View Post
I had Flourite substrate in my 70g and was surprised that the pH remained around 7.2, whereas the other tanks run in the mid 6's. Flourite and Eco-Complete are much the same.

I am wondering if this could be the issue though. When you test the tap water, do you outgas the CO2? Shaking the water vigorously for a couple minutes will do this, or letting it sit 24 hours. The pH reading after will be more reliable as the CO2 (which causes carbonic acid and lower pH) will be outgassed.

Sand works well, I replaced my Flourite with play sand about 3 weeks ago, and now have sand in 6 of 7 tanks. Quikrete Play Sand is what I use, available at Home Depot, Lowe's, etc. Two bags would be more than enough for a 55g tank.
aklick is offline  
post #46 of 49 Old 03-21-2013, 07:42 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Ok, I did the test and let it sit and the PH was fine...

Ok I did a 50% water change on 3/17
tested my levels today:
PH 7.8
NItrate zero
nitrite zero
ammonia zero

My KH took 10 drops to turn the water green. According to my chart that's 179

Any thoughts on my levels?

My plants are doing better. My sword died way down though. But for now it's staying green. I took it out of the substrate for a month and that seemed to help a lot. makes me wonder if the substrate was just to much for it.

I still have a lot of algea in the tank. I have tons of snails but they don't seem to help much. I'd like to get an algea eater but I don't want one that will eat fish eggs. Not that I plan on breeding but if I do I'd like the eggs to be safe. (I have no fish in my tank right now)

My Brazilian Pennywort died way back too. But I think that's because I had it shipped when it was very cold out. The plant survived but died way back after. I'm hoping it survives and starts to re grow.

I also cleaned off my sponge. I hadn't done that since I set up the tank, that will hopefully help too


Quote:
Originally Posted by aklick View Post
Oh oops. I didn't let it sit. I"ll do that when I get home this weekend!
aklick is offline  
post #47 of 49 Old 03-21-2013, 08:14 PM
Member
 
Byron's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklick View Post
Ok, I did the test and let it sit and the PH was fine...

Ok I did a 50% water change on 3/17
tested my levels today:
PH 7.8
NItrate zero
nitrite zero
ammonia zero

My KH took 10 drops to turn the water green. According to my chart that's 179

Any thoughts on my levels?

My plants are doing better. My sword died way down though. But for now it's staying green. I took it out of the substrate for a month and that seemed to help a lot. makes me wonder if the substrate was just to much for it.

I still have a lot of algea in the tank. I have tons of snails but they don't seem to help much. I'd like to get an algea eater but I don't want one that will eat fish eggs. Not that I plan on breeding but if I do I'd like the eggs to be safe. (I have no fish in my tank right now)

My Brazilian Pennywort died way back too. But I think that's because I had it shipped when it was very cold out. The plant survived but died way back after. I'm hoping it survives and starts to re grow.

I also cleaned off my sponge. I hadn't done that since I set up the tank, that will hopefully help too
We need to determine the type of algae. Can you post a photo? Algae is normal in any healthy aquarium, so long as we keep it under control. Sometimes a fish can help, often not, because so-called "algae" eating fish are usually very fussy about which algae they will eat. And this is rarely the problem algae.

Reading back through this, thread: has the substrate been changed to sand? What is the GH now?

Byron.

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
Byron is offline  
post #48 of 49 Old 03-22-2013, 08:51 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
GH I didn't test but I can tonight. KH was 10 drops (so around 179 according to my kit)

substrate has not been changed yet. Still debating as to whether I have to do that.


is it good for nitrites and nitrates to be at zero?

I can upload a picture tonight. The algea is kind of like small green hair...and impossible to remove!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Byron View Post
We need to determine the type of algae. Can you post a photo? Algae is normal in any healthy aquarium, so long as we keep it under control. Sometimes a fish can help, often not, because so-called "algae" eating fish are usually very fussy about which algae they will eat. And this is rarely the problem algae.

Reading back through this, thread: has the substrate been changed to sand? What is the GH now?

Byron.
aklick is offline  
post #49 of 49 Old 03-22-2013, 10:51 AM
Member
 
Byron's Avatar
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aklick View Post
GH I didn't test but I can tonight. KH was 10 drops (so around 179 according to my kit)

substrate has not been changed yet. Still debating as to whether I have to do that.


is it good for nitrites and nitrates to be at zero?

I can upload a picture tonight. The algea is kind of like small green hair...and impossible to remove!
Are there fish in this tank yet? How are you "cycling" if you are?

Byron Hosking, BMus, MA
Vancouver, BC, Canada

The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If you’re going to take it under your wing then you’re responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
Byron is offline  
Reply

« lux vs WPG? | ferts »
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Plants turning brown DanielaMarie Beginner Planted Aquarium 12 07-12-2012 12:01 PM
Anacharis keeps turning brown? jhays79 Beginner Planted Aquarium 12 03-03-2012 05:14 AM
Plants turning brown in new tank sgroove2011 Beginner Freshwater Aquarium 8 10-19-2011 12:00 AM
plants turning brown fighttest Beginner Freshwater Aquarium 27 09-07-2009 03:01 PM
Moss turning brown littlebabyfilly Beginner Planted Aquarium 4 05-02-2008 04:55 PM

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome