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post #11 of 24 Old 11-18-2010, 03:25 PM
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A GH of 120 (about 7 dGH) is soft approaching medium hard. As redchigh says, calcareous rock will raise this but depending upon the rock type it may be slow or not. Not a problem for livebearers. Vallisneria loves hard water, so that is good too, and it easily assimilates carbon from carbonates (higher in hard water) so the limited CO2 from the few fish will not be a detriment.

Vallisneria frequent looks like your original photos for a few weeks, so at this stage I would not be concerned. The existing leaves will not improve, but new growth will (should) be lush and green. I don't know Flora Grow or what's in it.

A word on the "stuff" going in the tank. StressCoat is a water conditioner on its own, so I would only use either this or your other water conditioner which you don't name, but not both. Overloading the tank with chemicals is something I do not advise; regardless of the claim most conditioners make that they can't be overdosed, it makes sense not to use more than necessary. I can't help but think they must have some impact on the biological system.

StressZyme I assume was used to "seed" the tank at the first. I would not continue this product at all. The claims it makes for breaking down organic compounds is something best left to nature. Speeding this up will increase ammonia, so this is somewhat at cross purposes. As the tank has been running 2 weeks, with very few fish and live plants, I would not use StressZyme further.

Just one good conditioner, and the fertilizer (never exceeding the dose on the label) and you're set to go.


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post #12 of 24 Old 11-18-2010, 03:36 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks man for your help! All concerns put to bed. And my plants love hard water too! Yeah!
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post #13 of 24 Old 11-18-2010, 06:34 PM
well the rock will make the water more hard every day, as in more minerals will be dissolved in the water. Hard water isnt good for many plants and will die. I cant remember if corkscrew vall is good for hard water though... sorry :D

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post #14 of 24 Old 11-22-2010, 04:20 PM
I actually saw this rock at my lfs yesterday. The owner says its only good for saltwater aquariums. Without seeing your rock in person i cant tell if they are the same but they look almost exactly alike except for size. The LFS owner said that the rock is not all calcium but contains a high concentration of calcium and is best for saltwater usage.
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post #15 of 24 Old 11-23-2010, 01:01 AM Thread Starter
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Well that is fine as I am converting my tank to s/w this weekend! W00t!!! It has always been my dream to have a s/w tank, so now I'm gonna have one! Ima put 2 oscellaris clowns in, a orange and a black one!
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post #16 of 24 Old 11-29-2010, 03:14 PM
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our converting your 6g with clown fish wayy to small..

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post #17 of 24 Old 11-29-2010, 04:50 PM
doesnt S/W tanks require a lot more "in-tank" maintenance? I feel like that would be difficult to do with that small opening the edge has.
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post #18 of 24 Old 11-30-2010, 12:24 PM
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... I just noticed something...

Does it seem to anyone else that maybe the vallis are planted a bit too deep?

Also, you bought them in a "bunch" I assume. Did you remove the string or twisty that held them together?

Vallis like hard water.
So do:
Java Fern
Many aponogetons
Most Hygrophilas
Most Swordplants (Echinodorus Blehiri var Compacta, E. Tenellus, are probably the only ones that would fit.)
dwarf sag.

You have options. :)

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post #19 of 24 Old 12-03-2010, 01:16 PM
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Well that is fine as I am converting my tank to s/w this weekend! W00t!!! It has always been my dream to have a s/w tank, so now I'm gonna have one! Ima put 2 oscellaris clowns in, a orange and a black one!
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According to the fluval FAQ site, they recommend that these tanks be used for freshwater: Fluval Edge FAQ's and Troubleshooting | FLUVAL: The Official Blog from Hagen Last FAQ states that these tanks would be difficult to maintain as SW tanks.
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post #20 of 24 Old 12-03-2010, 02:19 PM Thread Starter
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I have read in depth about the saltwater conversion to this tank, and many people have succeded. I have made this tank into a FOWLR (Fish Only With Live Rock) tank so the maintenece will be similar to a freshwater tank. Nearly all of the maintenence is out of the tank as all I need to do is prepare salt water for the tank and put it in.
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