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Old 03-15-2010, 09:04 PM   #1
 
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Moss walls/dividers?

Hi all... I'm a transplant from the betta forum (no pun intended!! :)

I have a 20 gallon divided 4 ways with the DIY mesh dividers. I am considering buying a bunch of java moss and lining the dividers with it to give the boys some privacy.

My questions are:

1. Put the moss between two pieces of mesh and let it grow out? Or "sew" it on one piece of mesh with fish line/nylon thread?

2. How fast does it grow? I have the standard fluorescent light in the standard 20 gallon hood.

3. How would this effect filtration? I have a power filter in one section and Penn-Plax small world filters in the other sections to help with air flow and cycling.

4. How do I feed the java moss? And would Java or Christmas moss be better for this?

5. Anyone have a bunch of it for sale?? :):)

Thank you!!
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:18 AM   #2
 
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1. Either would work I think. Should grow out either way and look like a mossy wall. I think the first way would be simplest.

2. It grows very fast if you have proper lighting and stuff. It's a pretty hardy plant and takes a lot to kill it. With a standard flourescent light it probably won't grow much, though. I think you'd want a "Daylight" 6500k light... I've had it in tanks with regular flourescent lights and it never really grew... didn't die either, though...

3. Depending how thick the wall is it might make filtration in the sections without the filters more difficult. But the moss should do some part in keeping the tank clean since it's a live plant and will clean up ammonia and such. It will also give off oxygen for your fish.

4. It should live off your fish waste for the most part. Some liquid fertilizer might help it grow a little better if you have a lot of it.

5. I don't but it grows quick I'm sure someone might have extras. ;) My bunch of java moss is in my 44g tank without a good light so it doesn't grow like a weed in there... It just stays he same, lol.
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:36 AM   #3
 
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I grow my walls just by cutting piece of screen to X size I want covered in the end spread across some java moss and sow it down and add it to the tank.
Attached few pictures from the newst one, you can already see the left one is older/ longer grown then the right piece; but all in all grows in fairly quick IMO
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:11 AM   #4
 
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2. It grows very fast if you have proper lighting and stuff. It's a pretty hardy plant and takes a lot to kill it. With a standard flourescent light it probably won't grow much, though. I think you'd want a "Daylight" 6500k light... I've had it in tanks with regular flourescent lights and it never really grew... didn't die either, though...

This is probably a stupid question.... but is this "daylight 6500k" light a light bulb or a whole new lighting system?
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Old 03-16-2010, 11:12 AM   #5
 
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Wow -those walls look awesome! That's exactly what I want! What size tank and types of lights do you have?
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Old 03-16-2010, 04:56 PM   #6
 
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This is probably a stupid question.... but is this "daylight 6500k" light a light bulb or a whole new lighting system?
Not a stupid question!
You know how light bulbs come in 5, 10, 20 watts? well they also come in a "color" which means the kinda light given off and how your eye's receive it as different colors; that's defined as its spectrum and expressed as Kelvin for example your avg house light bulb is prop around 2000K the flourecent light tubes you see in shops anywhere they're more like 4-5000K and compared to your house they look "colder" more blue while as your house one's look more yellow.
So you just go see what size of screw in bulb or size tube you need there, go to Homedeport, Lowes, Walamrt look for GE, Bright Effects or Phillips bulbs and look at the small print print he box it'll say XYZ watt and XYZ Kelvin there and you'd want one that's 6500Kelvin for your plants ideally!

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Wow -those walls look awesome! That's exactly what I want! What size tank and types of lights do you have?
That tank is a 10g but if you either have A) a lot java moss or B) a lot of patience for it to grow/ waiting time you can really do any size tank you want. I just pers like the "natural" background over the posters and my shrimp love it too. This one was built off a 1/4 cup java moss the left half frist and then the half on the right was built uhm maybe 2-3 weeks ago off the cut off parts from the other side Just sow it on there once the thread devolves itself the moss has already attached itself. Its really too simple and looks real pretty IMO nice its fully grown (which mine ain't and I wished I could have a picture of my old wall to show you that green wall, looked so thick and awesome).

Also works GREAT in tanks with fry as they'll hide in there extremely well and the adults won't snack on them
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:41 PM   #7
 
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AAAhhh, thank you so much. I should have realized that about the light! Can I add java moss when my tank is cycling (fishlessly)?
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:53 PM   #8
 
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yes you can.

Plants actually speed up the cycle by amsorbing ammonia....
but I don't know how much ammonia one clump of java moss would absorb.

Java moss grows slowly for some, fast for others... There are lots of types of moss, I think it would be best to get a small qty of a few varieties.... but thats just me.
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