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Old 01-31-2010, 09:28 AM   #11
 
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As promised I'll go over this give you app. sizes so you know better what to expect from these plants...then I'll comment on the sketch

(Sizes are based of my exp meaning no ferts which they may grow bigger with ferts I donno lol)

1- Echinodorus Bleheri > Will gwo about 1ft in diameter and about 1.5ft tall
1- Echinodorus Rubin > Same as Bleheri just not as wide "spread"
1- Anubius Barteri var Coffeefolia > About 4-5" dia and about 7-9" tall
3-4 Zephyranthes Candida (Dwarf onion) > No pers exp here but I seen them grow in other tank around about 1.5ft tall
6- Villisneria Asiatica var. Biwaensis (Corkscrew val) > OK, I donno if these just "went wrong" in my own tank but mine grew some 2.5-3ft long (they were gigantic)
Limnophila Aromatica 'Hipporoides' > Like any good stem plant tall, but I clip mine at around 18" to maintain a high level there
Sagittaria Subulata (Dwarf) 7-8" tall and each spread out a lil I'd say 2-3" dia
On your sketch you also listed Crypt's they don't grow much taller then 6-7" but spread out nice & bushy around 10-11"


Now your sketch: I'd lay the DW across infront the Asiatica and then the E. Rubin & Onion infront of it
The Limnophila because of the size I'd move where the Crypts are now and the Crypts infront of it (otherwise you'd not see the Cypts having the taller plants blocking them.
Hope this helps
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:17 PM   #12
 
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Thank you so much Natalie. The hard part for me is not knowing how tall and big the plants grow. And what you suggest makes total sense. I wasn't sure about L. Dramatica and how tall it grew. I assumes it was a mid level height and I was thinking of a nice field effect of 4"-6" high ferny looking plants in that area. I suppose I never figured that the size of the product listed for each plant on SA website is what it grows to be. I was thinking the size listed is the size it comes as.

They have plant packages for different sized tanks. Pckg. 2 is for a 55g and has a few more plants than what I have and about 4 more crypts than I have. I may get their package for a 55g. Thanks for looking and your suggestions. I'll likely have more lol. Just kick me when you've had enough of me.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:30 PM   #13
 
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I just cross checked...but the sizes listed is the PRODUCT size....which so far 9 outta 10 plants I got from them where tall / older plants that already had their sizes just need to bush out now (Like the Swords, Cypt's etc).

Like I said you'll change your mind a few times before its "settled" and that's just normal.....Pers I don't like these "packages" anyone offers, there's always some plants in there that don't mix for my taste lol and I try built the tanks well the plants rather around my fish.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:36 PM   #14
 
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Yeah you are right about the packages. There are one or two plants in it that I wouldn't buy. Like that onion looking bulb thing that you only bury 1/3 of the bulb. I hate that plant. Plus the pic shown of it looks like Gumby or something.
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Old 01-31-2010, 01:37 PM   #15
 
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A comment on a couple of things in this thread. Before that, a nice selection of plants I think.

As I just wrote in another of your threads the same plant can grow differently in different tanks due to the light, space and nutrients. Expect to shift some around after 3-4 months, maybe remove some, try others... like a garden it is never static, it grows and develops month to month, year to year.

On the nutrient question in your post #2 in this thread, all plants take nutrients from the water column. The water brings nutrients to the roots, whether the roots are dangling from floating plants or stem plants, attached to wood or rock, or buried in the substrate. The roots assimilate nutrients from the water, which is why a steady flow of water through the substrate is essential. A multitude of aerobic and anaerobic bacteria in the substrate assist the plants' roots in assimilating nutrients, and the roots expel oxygen for some of this. This is why liquid fertilizer will always be sufficient in planted tanks, regardless of the plant types. Provided the biological system is working properly, water circulating gently, and all that, the plants will be fine.

Adding substrate fertilizers for heavy feeders like swords will make them grow faster and larger because it is adding more nutrients directly at the roots. But this is not essential for healthy rooted plants.

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Old 01-31-2010, 09:23 PM   #16
 
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so liquid ferts are needed even for root feeders? a root tab would not suffice?
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:38 PM   #17
 
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so liquid ferts are needed even for root feeders? a root tab would not suffice?
If all you have in an aquarium are substrate-rooted plants (no floating plants, no plants attached to wood or rock) then substrate fertilizer will probably suffice, assuming it contains everything. It is interesting that in my SA tanks full of swords, I was dosing liquid twice a week and everything grew well; when I got substrate sticks for the swords, I experimented 3 times cutting back the liquid to once a week, but each time the yellowing leaves of the swords told me they needed the liquid (or something in it). Substrate tabs/sticks provide nutrients where they are needed, provided everything is there.

I do know that solely liquid fert will suffice all plants, though swords will grow more slowly than if they have substrate fert, but again that may be simply a case of increasing something and not by virtue of being in the substrate.

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