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Old 10-07-2009, 05:59 PM   #11
 
so what would you suggest?
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Old 10-07-2009, 06:58 PM   #12
 
I fail to see why we don't all work in lumens instead of watts.
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Old 10-07-2009, 07:08 PM   #13
 
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so what would you suggest?
What size is the tank? And what type of plants? By the latter question I mean the sort of "look" you want in your aquarium; different plants require more or less light (and nutrients to balance).

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Old 10-07-2009, 09:05 PM   #14
 
i want kind of a cover like "lawn" look mabye a plant that reaches the surface and something else...i have a ten galon going to get sand mabye unless something else is better for plants and a peice of driftwood and i will be puttin CO2 in there
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Old 10-07-2009, 09:29 PM   #15
 
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I have the opportunity to get yet another fish tank...
its a 125 gallon already set up.. with fish ( but I dont those
fish ) will prolly make yet another trade to the LFS.
its a 72 long
18 deep
22 tall.....
with 2 emperor filters all for $300.00
sounds like a pretty good deal..
the stand is dark wood.. very nice looking......
but what do you think about the cost?
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Old 10-08-2009, 03:10 AM   #16
 
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I fail to see why we don't all work in lumens instead of watts.
Since aquaria are a hobby that can be enjoyed by everybody it makes sense to keep it in layman’s terms. And probably because most bulbs don’t state their lumen output. Aside from that unless you accurately figure in reflector efficiency, water depth and turbidity, decay of the bulb, then you’re still just talking ballpark figures. In an ideal world everybody would own light meters and we would be talking in Lux. But that’s allot to ask for to somebody who just wants a few nice plants to look at. So it might make things clearer to a few but it would just confuse most people even more.

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Old 10-08-2009, 07:54 AM   #17
 
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Since aquaria are a hobby that can be enjoyed by everybody it makes sense to keep it in laymanís terms. And probably because most bulbs donít state their lumen output. Aside from that unless you accurately figure in reflector efficiency, water depth and turbidity, decay of the bulb, then youíre still just talking ballpark figures. In an ideal world everybody would own light meters and we would be talking in Lux. But thatís allot to ask for to somebody who just wants a few nice plants to look at. So it might make things clearer to a few but it would just confuse most people even more.
There is an article that I read I believe it was on the internet or my new Aquarium magazine
that talked about the Tank Depth not being a problem until you went past 3 ft...
Now I am not to sure if this is totally true.. but it does seem to me
the majority of people have tanks that are less than 2 ft deep....so
that would be a common factor for most..
I have been told the LESS the KV the better it is for plants then I read that the more the KV the
bulb has the better it is for the plants..
I swear.. I wish there was a RULE OF THUMB to go by.. so I guess I am like many others
TRIAL and ERROR... I will say this I have had some really good luck with the smaller tanks
that I have its the bigger tanks that I have worried about..
my 120G only had one lite strip when I got it..... and it was like that for about 3 weeks till
I was able to buy the second lite strip. so I bought one that has 2 lights in it and I bought
2 floura bulbs... they only have 32 watts each,,,???? I dont understand the bulb companies
WALMART sells a bulb . thats a for plants Cost a mear $7.00
and its puts out 40 watts.. SEEMS to me to be better.. ( BUT ) dont know how much the KV
out put is or what type of spectrum ? I know when lit the bulb is a yellow color and the new FLOURA
bulbs are bright BLUISH color.. BIG DIFFERENCE.....
what kind of bulbs are everyone else using? and how much do they cost and were did they buy them at?
Thanks
Ron
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Old 10-08-2009, 10:55 AM   #18
 
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6500-6700K daylight (full spectrum) bulbs are generally the best all around bulb to use. The 4 foot bulbs come in 32 or 40 watts. My fixture uses T-8 but some accept T-8 or T-12.
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:51 PM   #19
 
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Byron :

I have the opportunity to get yet another fish tank...
its a 125 gallon already set up.. with fish ( but I dont those
fish ) will prolly make yet another trade to the LFS.
its a 72 long
18 deep
22 tall.....
with 2 emperor filters all for $300.00
sounds like a pretty good deal..
the stand is dark wood.. very nice looking......
but what do you think about the cost?
I'll assume you are in the US, so I'd have no idea on cost comparisons. What would a new 125g tank cost there (or online in the US)? If this is to be planted I would only use a good canister filter (I'm assuming the Emperor are HOB). For me, this would probably not be much of a deal. B.
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Old 10-08-2009, 06:58 PM   #20
 
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i want kind of a cover like "lawn" look mabye a plant that reaches the surface and something else...i have a ten galon going to get sand mabye unless something else is better for plants and a peice of driftwood and i will be puttin CO2 in there
Some of the "lawn" groundcover plants are difficult to grow without more light, CO2 and (perhaps daily) fertilization. All about that balance again.

Sand is not the best substrate for plants, although plants will grow well in it. There are planted tank enthusiasts who recommend plant substrates like Eco-complete, others recomend a layer of plain soil with a small-grain gravel layer on top, others like me only use small-grain gravel with root fertilizer tabs or sticks for the larger swords. All have success for what they want to achieve. It depends upon the look you want (your lawn groundcover pretty much points you in that direction) and how much money you want to spend in setup and regular maintenance. I have definitely gone for a low-tech approach, I have (to me) phenomenal plant growth for very little cost, but there are a few plants I know won't grow in this environment and I won't even attempt them.

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