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post #11 of 31 Old 12-10-2009, 06:48 PM Thread Starter
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The best way to put this briefly is to say that in a well-planted aquarium with a reasonable fish load, you really do not need a filter. You could never get by with that in a non-planted tank. Not only that, but the water will be more stable [all things being equal], you will never have ammonia or nitrite even in brand new tanks, and the fish will have all the oxygen they could ever desire. All because of plants.

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sounds good but will my fish eat them.
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post #12 of 31 Old 12-10-2009, 06:59 PM
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sounds good but will my fish eat them.
Some will; as was mentioned earlier in this thread, plants are great unless the fish are vegetarian or significant up-rooters. You haven't mentioned fish in this thread, but from your other thread on cichlids, I am assuming that you are considering rift lake cichlids, so no they won't eat most of them. Mbuna eat algae and I have had Vallisneria [one plant that does very well in harder water as is needed for these fish] planted in tanks with these fish and they love to graze algae from the leaves. In another current thread on duckweed (a common floating plant), one member mentioned that mbuna love to eat duckweed; as it reproduces like crazy, this would be a good source of additional nourishment, plus it is a superb water purifier as it grows so fast. There may be some rift lake cichlids that do eat plants, I am not a cichlid expert by any means, but those I've had didn't.

Most heavily-planted aquaria contain quiet fish like characins, catfish, dwarf cichlids, angels, discus, SE Asian fish like rasbora, danios, gourami, betta, loaches...none of these are plant eaters. Some of the larger loaches can disturb them with their digging.

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What fish are you wanting to keep now?
If you wanna have cichlids, then I suggest various versions of Hygrophilia, they'll develop great roots and be sturdy enough for the lil buggers - Any other fish...pick what you like, Swords, Stem plants what ever feels food to your eyes really

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What fish are you wanting to keep now?
If you wanna have cichlids, then I suggest various versions of Hygrophilia, they'll develop great roots and be sturdy enough for the lil buggers - Any other fish...pick what you like, Swords, Stem plants what ever feels food to your eyes really
well ive got
2 red top zebras
2 acies
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Yea then I'd get plants like Hygrophilia, Swords, Anubias maybe some larger Crypto's
Here's a good site with pictures & names in case I hadn't posted it for you before Aquarium Plants

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thanks. so these plants you mention wont get eaten by my fish.
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They won't really "eat" any plants like open their mouth and swallow them, mostly they'll pull on it and with stem plants that don't have a good size root system it'll just 24/7 pull them out and you always have floating plants.
With the plants I suggested, they develop a real good root system which will hold them down and the fish won't be able to pull them out....Gimme a min, I'll get you a pic from my Yellow tank on here...

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Here's the 55g stocked with Yellows and planted ONLY with Hygrophilia - Did never have a single issue (even thou them Yellows were EXTREME diggers, not a single plant ever came up).
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post #19 of 31 Old 12-11-2009, 07:33 PM
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Well Byron knows better than I surely but I was also told at the store that if I wanted live plants, I would need this and that and whatever else... the guy essentially scared me away from buying live plants. Until I did some research and found that some plants will thrive in a tank no matter what... hygrophilia and hormwort for example are plant types that get their nutrients through their leaves and have minimal root systems, ideal for tanks without adequate substrate for live plants (like mine) - heck hornwort doesn't produce roots at all!

And this is gonna sound corny but really... the fish enjoy live plants so much more than fake ones! You try sleeping with a plastic bedsheet and see if you like it!! (LOL! I kill myself!).

OK enough stupidities. Check out this site I go to all the time now to figure out plants: The Planted Tank - Articles, Forums, Pictures, Links (Thanks to Byron). Another good one is Tropica.

The benefits of live plants are many, and the tanks look so much better with them.

Good luck!
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the stock list so far i have everything you do cept zebras. never seen my labs dig or my acei dig. the biggest digger in my tank is the alpha johanni. after about a week i have to go in and smooth out the sand again and sometimes re root the smaller plants he just loves uprooting my fern's but he cant ever get the swords up. but what i found works is placing small rocks around the base of the plant to insure he cant dig them up and it has worked for about two weeks now and no issues.
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