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post #1 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 01:53 PM Thread Starter
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Java Moss?

I have been thinking about adding some java moss to my 2.5 gallon betta tank as a ground cover plant but my concern is that the java moss will grow up and on the other plants. Will it grow just along the gravel? Or will it also grow over the filter and everything else in the tank?

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post #2 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 02:49 PM
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It grows over everything, but in my experiance it grows pretty slow, and you can just pull off and throw away the extra.

For a foreground plant, you might try dwarf sag or pygmy chain sword.

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post #3 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 03:28 PM
but i don't think it grows on other plants

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post #4 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 03:35 PM
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Not in the "parasitic" sense. The strands of JM simply grow by getting longer and branching out as they do. If they come into contact with objects like wood or rock they will attach and spread over the object. They also continue to grow up and away from the object, "floating" in a sense. It will just "float" around other plants, entwined around stems, leaves, etc., but not "attaching" to assimilate nutrients from those plants.

I like seeing a layer of JM on wood or rock. When it gets too thick, I pull a bit off. That bit will remain alive if left floating, and behave as mentioned above.

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post #5 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 04:39 PM Thread Starter
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The tank is only eight inches tall can you guys suggest something else I could use? Here is a picture of the tank:

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post #6 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 05:10 PM
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First are floating plants. Anything to reduce that light and make the betta more comfortable; betta love cruising among floating plants and branches. Even a cheap stem plant allowed to float will suffice.

In that environment the Java Moss would be quite nice. I just went in to my fishroom and took a photo of my 10g, attached below. There is a chunk of wood with JM on the right side, you can see how it grows up from the wood. I pulled out a handful a week or so ago.

The plants show what can be done with odds and sods; the floaters are all Echinodorus bleherae daughter plants culled from the 115g to thin them out a bit [I have dozens if anyone wants to come up and get some]. There are daughter plants of E. tenellus and one or two of the red leaf swords in the sand. This tank was just thrown together, no filter, no light, just a heater. I have 7 Corydoras pygmaeus and 9 Boraras brigittae. Plus a puffer (not sure what species) and a couple shrimp (no idea which); these "arrived" in the bag with the C. pygmaeus from one of the local fish stores whose owner will deliver, so I take whatever she catches in the net.

Oh, and definitely lots of snails.
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post #7 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
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Byron that is a very nice tank. I have some very nice Brazilian Pennywort in the Ember Tetra tank what if I took a few pieces of that and let it float in the tank? I don't know why I had not thought of that before.

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First are floating plants. Anything to reduce that light and make the betta more comfortable; betta love cruising among floating plants and branches. Even a cheap stem plant allowed to float will suffice.

In that environment the Java Moss would be quite nice. I just went in to my fishroom and took a photo of my 10g, attached below. There is a chunk of wood with JM on the right side, you can see how it grows up from the wood. I pulled out a handful a week or so ago.

The plants show what can be done with odds and sods; the floaters are all Echinodorus bleherae daughter plants culled from the 115g to thin them out a bit [I have dozens if anyone wants to come up and get some]. There are daughter plants of E. tenellus and one or two of the red leaf swords in the sand. This tank was just thrown together, no filter, no light, just a heater. I have 7 Corydoras pygmaeus and 9 Boraras brigittae. Plus a puffer (not sure what species) and a couple shrimp (no idea which); these "arrived" in the bag with the C. pygmaeus from one of the local fish stores whose owner will deliver, so I take whatever she catches in the net.

Oh, and definitely lots of snails.

Ooh, I very very much love the look of that tank. (except all the snails) I am trying to create a green space like that in my 60 gallon. I am going to start the search for some java moss. I just bought some wood to hold it. I hope mine will take off like that. Will the lights burn it out? I don't want to do a no lights tank, I like being able to see my fish and I think they like the light too, odd as that might sound.
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post #9 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 06:57 PM
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Amanda, Pennywort is ideal. Just let it float, in a couple days the leaves will face up and the roots will start to grow dangling. I have it in a couple tanks, had it in this 10g too but it got too tangled and I wanted to float the swords as an experiment. Some floating pennywort will make a world of difference to the betta and your view.

Inga, that is one "problem" with this tank, the lack of a light. It is in front of the window, and its difficult to see the fish. Those bright blood-red Boraras are pale shadows. But it is an experiment in low-tech, and aside from the viewing issue it is certainly thriving.

This is about the only tank I can raise pond/bladder snails in (still not sure which these are, they are quite attractive when they mature). I have Malaysian livebearing snails in all the tanks, they tolerate soft water well. Pond/bladder do not, they need calcium and my water is near zero calcium. But this tank is around pH 6.6 which is higher than the others and they have done well. I move them to the 115g now and then, some manage to survive in there, it has dolomite in the filter to buffer the GH at 2 so that's probably why. They don't seem to reproduce in that tank though.

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post #10 of 16 Old 08-17-2010, 08:06 PM
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Well, it is a beautiful tank, even with all the little snails. :) Is a Moss Ball, different then Java Moss? What other kinds of Moss are there for an aquarium? I was looking at a few places for Java Moss and all I saw was Moss balls. They are kind of round (hence "ball") and don't seem like much. I want the green to take over my tank. I love that look. I don't want a couple little green balls sticking to something in my tank and looking like miniature old lady hedges.
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