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This is a discussion on How's my filtration? within the Beginner Planted Aquarium forums, part of the Beginner Freshwater Aquarium category; --> Originally Posted by JaybieFromTheLB Thank you for the reply. I'm glad to hear that my filtration systems fine. The angel and gourami are actually ...

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Old 01-08-2014, 03:56 PM   #11
 
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Thank you for the reply. I'm glad to hear that my filtration systems fine. The angel and gourami are actually doing fine together and they actually stay on completely opposite sides of the tank. I think it helps that I have plants that they can hide in. If anything I can most likely give the gourami to a neighbor who is starting up his own tank.

Is it true that carbon will steal nutrients from my plants? I'm considering just adding more biomax and some filter floss to substitute the carbon
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Yep.

if you have ammonia for instance and carbon is absorbing that, then the plants have less ammonia.

But with enough plants you have 0 ammonia so who cares.

But what I do in no filtration so all that goes to the plants.


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Old 01-08-2014, 04:07 PM   #12
 
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Carbon absorbs ammonia? Got anything that says that?
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Old 01-08-2014, 04:09 PM   #13
 
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Yep.

if you have ammonia for instance and carbon is absorbing that, then the plants have less ammonia.

But with enough plants you have 0 ammonia so who cares.

But what I do in no filtration so all that goes to the plants.


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Beaslbob, so far I'm getting pretty inspired by this no circulation tank you're telling me about. Perhaps this will be my next side project? What type of species do you have in this tank?
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Old 01-08-2014, 04:17 PM   #14
 
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Thank you all for your input. Is it too late to add more corys because they're not from the same tank?
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No, it's not too late.

Don't take this the wrong way, but asking such a question leads me to think that you would be much better off building your experience in traditional fish keeping practices before moving on to alternative methods. Of course that's just my opinion.
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Old 01-08-2014, 05:32 PM   #15
 
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No, it's not too late.

Don't take this the wrong way, but asking such a question leads me to think that you would be much better off building your experience in traditional fish keeping practices before moving on to alternative methods. Of course that's just my opinion.
I've been fishkeeping with my dad for years, it's just corydoras are a completely different species than the cichlids me and my dad kept. I bought a school of peppered corys, all but one survived. Then I bought a school of melini corys and all died but one. I made sure temperature and other water parameters are to their liking, yet only a sole survivior of each school remains. Now I'm stuck with two corys. I'm wondering if I should bring them in instead and try for another school. For some odd reason corys are the only fish I've been baffled by.
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Old 01-08-2014, 05:47 PM   #16
 
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I've been fishkeeping with my dad for years, it's just corydoras are a completely different species than the cichlids me and my dad kept. I bought a school of peppered corys, all but one survived. Then I bought a school of melini corys and all died but one. I made sure temperature and other water parameters are to their liking, yet only a sole survivior of each school remains. Now I'm stuck with two corys. I'm wondering if I should bring them in instead and try for another school. For some odd reason corys are the only fish I've been baffled by.
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Without even reading page 1 yet of this post I must point out .. You likely have a MUCH better idea of proper tank care then bob. If he linkiked you to his thread.. Please read it all the way through. This method is absolutely terrible!! If you want a better versionof the same idea talk to aokashi or look up Diana Walstads methods! Diana is local to my state and while i dont use her methods that are factually proven.. I 100% agree with how she keeps her tanks. She is worth a read. And while she does natural planted tanks she mostly doesnt agree with no circulation .. Nor does she agree with no water changes.. Just few water changes. And unlike bob she 100% back the use of a water conditioner .. Specifically prime. Listen to an expert.. Not just some random person on a forum who NEVER posts pics of their current tanks! Last thing I'd wantbto see is anyone coming here fir advice then being mislead so far.
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Without even reading page 1 yet of this post I must point out .. You likely have a MUCH better idea of proper tank care then bob. If he linkiked you to his thread.. Please read it all the way through. This method is absolutely terrible!! If you want a better versionof the same idea talk to aokashi or look up Diana Walstads methods! Diana is local to my state and while i dont use her methods that are factually proven.. I 100% agree with how she keeps her tanks. She is worth a read. And while she does natural planted tanks she mostly doesnt agree with no circulation .. Nor does she agree with no water changes.. Just few water changes. And unlike bob she 100% back the use of a water conditioner .. Specifically prime. Listen to an expert.. Not just some random person on a forum who NEVER posts pics of their current tanks! Last thing I'd wantbto see is anyone coming here fir advice then being mislead so far.
Thanks for the input. I'm always open to learning new methods in fishkeeping. Not everyone uses the same techniques and a lot of people have used methods that were against the norm, yet they have successfully raised perfectly healthy fish. I was considering bobs methods since I was trying to find a way to have a low tech tank. I'm for sure going to look into Diana's methods. I never jump into something without the proper research. This forum is just one of the multiple resources I have since everywhere people say different things.
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Old 01-09-2014, 09:19 AM   #18
 
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Beaslbob, so far I'm getting pretty inspired by this no circulation tank you're telling me about. Perhaps this will be my next side project? What type of species do you have in this tank?
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guppies, platties, angelfish, hachet fish, neon tetras, plecos, danios, glofish, ciclids, goldfish.

marine--tangs, clowns, gobies, banguii, soft type corals.

hope you correct the spelling mentally as you read.



Just about any.

With some fish the you may have to setup some kind of refugium to seperate the plants and fish. But generally just about any fish can thrive in these environments.

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Old 01-09-2014, 11:38 AM   #19
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There seems to be some confusion in this thread as to what is filtration and what is circulation.
taking circulation first circulation is the movement of water in the water column. itís simple if water is in motion then there is circulation and in tropical aquariums there always exist currents ( currents is the circulation of water). These currents are thermal currents and they exist every where water is heated. This process of thermal currents only requires a heat source and gravity.

Filtration is a little more complex. It is generally accepted that there are three separate process that filter our aquariums. 1) mechanical filtration, 2) chemical filtration and 3) biological filtration.

Mechanical filtration is the filter media that we change out when it becomes clogged. The rating of mechchanical filtration is NOT PARTICULATE removal but the amount of water that passes threw the pump. Your filter rate should move the water column at least 4 times an hour.
a drawback with this type of filter is it collects suspended particulate and allows the captured particulate to pollute the water column and it also breaks this particulate into smaller and smaller sizes as the particulate passes through the filter from the forceful currents created by the water pump. In my opinion mechanical filtration operates toward keeping the water clear.

Chemical filtration is basically adding carbon to the filter process and is valuable because carbon has the ability to remove pollutants from the water column that are chemical in nature. Most folks doní t use carbon but I find it useful filtering and it provide a great surface area for beneficial bacteria make home.

Biological filtration is the only filter process that is necessary and it is the filtration that beaslbob uses. Biological filter is the nitrogen and carbon cycle. When you cycle your tank you are setting up the biological filter and it is the only filter you need.
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I'm also confused, you asked if you could add cories to the tank or if it's too late since they aren't from the same tank. You mean the same tank from the LFS? If you have room you can always add more cories.. They appreciate the added numbers, even if you add them later. I've done this several times. It's best to get the same specific species, but not necessary.. I always tried to make sure they had similar adult sizes though.
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