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post #1 of 57 Old 05-27-2013, 10:40 PM Thread Starter
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help with plants

i just wanted to know when i get ready to plant my stem plants what should i use first, the root tabs or the liquid ferts. I have gravel in the tank and i was'nt sure which one i could use first, i also have two anubias plants in the tank any advice would be much appreciated.
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post #2 of 57 Old 05-27-2013, 10:50 PM
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With just stems and anubias you could get away with just using liquid fertilizer and be alright. When you add heavy root feeders such as crypts and swords you need to use both root tabs and liquid.
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post #3 of 57 Old 05-27-2013, 11:01 PM Thread Starter
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what would be the best root tabs and liquid ferts i could use
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post #4 of 57 Old 05-27-2013, 11:43 PM
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Presumably this is a low-tech or natural method planted tank, with no CO2 diffusion and not high light. So a basic complete liquid fertilizer will suffice.

All nutrients plants need will occur naturally in a balanced tank, but the level of some may not be sufficient. Some nutrients, particularly the "hard" minerals, occur in tap water so regular weekly water changes replenish these. But the faster-growing plants, such as stem plants and floating plants, do need more nutrition because they are faster growing. A liquid comprehensive supplement provides this.

Many of us here use Seachem's Flourish Comprehensive Supplement for the Planted Aquarium. It takes very little; 1/2 teaspoon doses 30 gallons, and you only need to use it once or at most twice a week. Another near-identical product is Brightwell Aquatics' FlorinMulti. Whichever you get, make sure it is exactly the named product, as both manufacturers have several different products under these names "Flourish" and "Florin."

You won't need substrate tabs unless you have heavy-feeding substrate-rooted plants as Boredomb said.

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I have good success (and so do others) using Seachems Flourish Comprehensive supplement for a liquid fertilizer. Seachems also has a root tab that is good as well.

Another brand I heard that is good is Brightwells Aquatic Florinmulti for a liquid fertilizer. I have no clue of that product as it isn't available near me.

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post #6 of 57 Old 06-03-2013, 12:29 PM Thread Starter
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as of right now I have a anubais nana a anubais afzelii and a anubais congensis all are attached to rocks around the middle of the tank I also just planted some anachris and they are in the back on the left hand side of the tank, I put three api root tabs around them and used some seachem flourish on all the plants. I was just wondering what would be a good fore-ground plant to use in a 10 gallon tank and another back ground plant to. I also replaced the lights that came with the tank and put in two G.E. energy smart day light 10 watt 6500k light bulbs for the plants, oh and one other thing I have a piece of anachris floating in the tank and wanted to know if it might start growing some roots soon its about two inches long and has been in the tank for about 4 days now thanks for all the help
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as of right now I have a anubais nana a anubais afzelii and a anubais congensis all are attached to rocks around the middle of the tank I also just planted some anachris and they are in the back on the left hand side of the tank, I put three api root tabs around them and used some seachem flourish on all the plants. I was just wondering what would be a good fore-ground plant to use in a 10 gallon tank and another back ground plant to. I also replaced the lights that came with the tank and put in two G.E. energy smart day light 10 watt 6500k light bulbs for the plants, oh and one other thing I have a piece of anachris floating in the tank and wanted to know if it might start growing some roots soon its about two inches long and has been in the tank for about 4 days now thanks for all the help
A good smaller plant for your 10g with the light you have would be pygmy chain sword. Check it out in our profiles. Crypts are another type, though these can be fussy, a few species are in the profiles.

Stem plants left floating will develop roots from the nodes along the stems. They can be left floating.

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I have Dwarf Sagittaria in the front of my 10 gallon it pretty similar to Pygmy chain sword through. In my 29 I also have Crypt Nevilli.

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post #9 of 57 Old 06-04-2013, 03:14 PM Thread Starter
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with the lights I have right now how many hours should I run them with the plants I have now.
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with the lights I have right now how many hours should I run them with the plants I have now.
You want to find the balance between light (intensity then duration) and nutrients, and this varies with each aquarium due to the fish load, feeding, plants, etc.

For m,y 10g with identical lights, I run them 8 hours. Flourish Comp dosed once a week. I have never had algae in this tank, interestingly, except when it was in the window as an experiment before I put the light over it.

Use a timer, and you can have the "day" period anytime when you are normally home to view the tank. As long as the tank gets a good period of complete darkness, you're OK.

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