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post #11 of 18 Old 08-19-2013, 10:29 PM Thread Starter
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He offered to send new plants once he figured out the problem... But honestly don't want his plants anymore. -.-

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post #12 of 18 Old 08-20-2013, 01:35 PM
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He offered to send new plants once he figured out the problem... But honestly don't want his plants anymore. -.-

FWIW

Every tank I have started planted always had a snail bloom especially after a month or two.

then a year later there are only a few left.

I just do nothing.

the fish eat the baby snails and eggs.

the snalis eat the fish poop, dead plant leaves, and algae.

And I find them kinda interesting.

So I recommend you just ignore them and check back a year later.

but that's just my .02

maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #13 of 18 Old 08-20-2013, 01:42 PM Thread Starter
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I'm not so worried about snails honestly as the worms/planaria and other gross things which may be present (if its infested with every possible pest, not sure why I shouldn't expect that I may miss other things as well).
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post #14 of 18 Old 08-21-2013, 03:30 AM
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Hey Austin, have ya figures out what you are going to do? Have you seen any more bugs/worms? Just curious how the plants are doing? Did you do a bleach solution on the plants??

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post #15 of 18 Old 08-24-2013, 02:22 AM Thread Starter
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Well I decided to toss them and he gave me a refund for the plants (not shipping..) so I basically got 62% of what I paid back. I'm fine with that. I'm gonna order off a bigger with probably farm raised plants and see how that goes, maybe.

My new lights came and idk if I told you but I was going the cheap way of buying "hydroponic" (aka marajuana LOL) grow lights... Home Depot website said they were 22" so they'd fit inside the current plastic fixtures if the current lights were removed, but they sent a different brand that was 23.75 inches!! What....

Being thrifty gets you nowhere...
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post #16 of 18 Old 08-24-2013, 08:50 AM
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Well I decided to toss them and he gave me a refund for the plants (not shipping..) so I basically got 62% of what I paid back. I'm fine with that. I'm gonna order off a bigger with probably farm raised plants and see how that goes, maybe.

My new lights came and idk if I told you but I was going the cheap way of buying "hydroponic" (aka marajuana LOL) grow lights... Home Depot website said they were 22" so they'd fit inside the current plastic fixtures if the current lights were removed, but they sent a different brand that was 23.75 inches!! What....

Being thrifty gets you nowhere...

FWIW if not already mentioned I use 6500k lights available inexpensiverly at lowes and home depot among others.


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maintain Fw and marine system with a strong emphasis on balanced, stabilized system that as much as possible are self substaning.

have maintained FW systems for up to 9 years with descendants from original fish and marine aquariums for up to 8 years.

With no water changes, untreated tap water, inexpensive lighting by first starting the tank with live plants (FW) or macro algae( marine)

see: http://www.tropicalfishkeeping.com/a...-build-295530/
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post #17 of 18 Old 08-24-2013, 11:30 PM
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Aquariumplants.com suggests the following pre-dip of plants prior to tank entry.

The Aquariumplants.com link is right here, but I've embedded it for ease of use for my fish lovin' friends.

This is good stuff and really is important to help eliminate potential problems.


Potassium Permanganate Dip

The first dip is milder and safer for the plants. It is a Potassium Permanganate dip. Potassium Permanganate is available at Sear's and Ace Hardware in the area where they sell water softener's and supplies. You can also purchase Potassium Permanganate from chemical supply companies, both local and online.

To prepare a disinfectant dip, use a bucket filled about 1/2 full of water. Add enough Potassium Permanganate to color the water a dark pink. This solution can be saved if covered, and it's a great way to store your nets and tools, soaking the this solution. Back to the dipping. To disinfect and kill most algae a 10-20 minute dip (more like bath) in Potassium Permanganate is very effective. Rinse the plants under tap water thoroughly and add dechlor to your tank...it neutralizes Potassium Permanganate too.

CAUTION: Potassium Permanganate is a strong powerful oxidizer. Treatment should be made outside the tank...it will kill your bio-filter. Like all chemicals you should wear protective eye wear and gloves. Potassium Permanganate will stain clothing, carpeting, skin, etc. Never combine Potassium Permanganate and Formalin, this will result in explosive results and dangerous gases.


Bleach (Chlorine) Dip

This is a more effective and sure-fire way to kill algae. It is also very easy to kill the plant in the process. Regular household bleach (i.e. Clorox) is diluted to a 5% (19 parts water to 1 part bleach) solution in a bucket. It's good to have a second bucket filled with rinse water containing 3X the normal dechlor. Dip large leaf plants for 3 minutes, immediately move to the dechlor rinse water, then rinse under running tap water for a few seconds, if you still smell chlorine, repeat the rinse process again. For small delicate leaf plants and mosses dip for only 2 minutes in the bleach. To be safe, add dechlor to the tank after adding the plants back. Also, if your dipping a lot of plants you may need to add more dechlor to your rinse water.

Remember, the bleach dip is a last resort solution. It can and may kill your plants! Use the same caution handling bleach as recommended for Potassium Permanganate.

Alum Dip

The Alum dip is more for killing microscopic bugs. Use at 1 tablespoon per gallon of water. Soak the plant for at least an hour, longer soaks of 2 to 3 days are needed to kill snails and snail eggs. For snails and snails eggs a 2-3 hour soak in a stronger solution of 3 tablespoons per gallon of water is a better choice. Alum isn't nearly as effective as the prior two for killing algae. Alum is aluminum sulfate and Alum USP can be obtained from a compounding pharmacy or grocery stores. (It's usually with the spices, herbs and pickling supplies).


Have fun and be PATIENT!

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post #18 of 18 Old 08-25-2013, 12:03 AM
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Imo, if you don't want snails and the worms in your tank, ditch the plants. Snails are good for a tank but pond snails are called pests for a reason.

Consider the needs of your fish before acting on your desires.
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