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Old 02-06-2012, 11:31 AM   #11
 
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Hey Byron,

I know you said Sparkling Gourami can be pretty mean. I believe in an old post of mine, you said I could try the one and if i like him then add two more. I observed the two new ones this morning, out and about and I want to ask you if these are some warning signs for some future issues:

They are not chasing anyone at the moment. They do however roam the tank more than my 1st one did, and they do swim between the shoal of tetra and rasbora, and they speed up in the middle and it gives everyone a "fright". They are definitely not speeding towards a particular fish, they just like to speed in the middle of the group and everyone swims away.

They are not attacking each other, although their tail fins do have some tears, I assume this was from the stressful environment at the LFS as they were alone in an open tank filled with ember tetra and I have not seen any issues since I added them. Their colors are very dull, i guess because of the relocation, but my original gourami (who is smaller than these 2 guys) is still very shy and hiding, and his colors are very pretty. He will not go near them at all. There were no issues at feeding time and everyone was OK to get some grub.

In your experience with this tiny fish, does this sound like an issue to come, or should I just keep them monitored until I see more obvious signs of nipping and attacking. I hope I explained things OK.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:52 AM   #12
 
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Hey Byron,

I know you said Sparkling Gourami can be pretty mean. I believe in an old post of mine, you said I could try the one and if i like him then add two more. I observed the two new ones this morning, out and about and I want to ask you if these are some warning signs for some future issues:

They are not chasing anyone at the moment. They do however roam the tank more than my 1st one did, and they do swim between the shoal of tetra and rasbora, and they speed up in the middle and it gives everyone a "fright". They are definitely not speeding towards a particular fish, they just like to speed in the middle of the group and everyone swims away.

They are not attacking each other, although their tail fins do have some tears, I assume this was from the stressful environment at the LFS as they were alone in an open tank filled with ember tetra and I have not seen any issues since I added them. Their colors are very dull, i guess because of the relocation, but my original gourami (who is smaller than these 2 guys) is still very shy and hiding, and his colors are very pretty. He will not go near them at all. There were no issues at feeding time and everyone was OK to get some grub.

In your experience with this tiny fish, does this sound like an issue to come, or should I just keep them monitored until I see more obvious signs of nipping and attacking. I hope I explained things OK.
I've only had issues with this fish when they spawn. The male guards the nest, like most gourami, and for a small fish they can be surprisingly tough. But aside from this, they never bothered anything. I've had around 5 together with other fish. And lots of floating plants, Water Sprite is ideal here.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:48 PM   #13
 
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OK great. Everyone seems much better today. All 3 were out, it seems like the two new ones are always together.

Any suggestions on the plants and my setup?
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:50 AM   #14
 
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OK great. Everyone seems much better today. All 3 were out, it seems like the two new ones are always together.

Any suggestions on the plants and my setup?
The Ludwigia (left front) will grow fast and get bushy, so it might rather block the front, but that's up to you. I would see it perhaps better behind the wood?
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Old 02-08-2012, 03:01 PM   #15
 
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Ok that makes sense to move them then. When I dedicate some time in the next few days, or on WC on sunday, I will move the Vals from the back right in front of the filter to where the ludwigia is. This should also give me some room to plant something else in the front left.

I will also attatch moss and java fern to the "branches" of the wood.The shrimp should appriciate the moss and the gourami will like the java fern as something to break their line of view.

A few more questions if you dont mind.

Any other plants i should try and add?
I should ony dose flourish once a week correct?
There is, what looks to be, zero water movement on the left side of my tank between the floating plants and my sponge filter. I know my fish do not like alot of current, but should I at least see the water move a little bit on the left side when i open the tank lid?
My bulb is a life-glo as reccomended by you, i think. I think it will be a year in june. My 30 gallon is over a year now. I think i noticed a difference over a standard 6500k hardware store bulb. I think I read in some posts that the light will continue to light but the "full spectrum" will "fade" after about a year? How often should I start replacing my life-glo's?

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Old 02-08-2012, 05:46 PM   #16
 
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Any other plants i should try and add?
I should ony dose flourish once a week correct?
There is, what looks to be, zero water movement on the left side of my tank between the floating plants and my sponge filter. I know my fish do not like alot of current, but should I at least see the water move a little bit on the left side when i open the tank lid?
My bulb is a life-glo as reccomended by you, i think. I think it will be a year in june. My 30 gallon is over a year now. I think i noticed a difference over a standard 6500k hardware store bulb. I think I read in some posts that the light will continue to light but the "full spectrum" will "fade" after about a year? How often should I start replacing my life-glo's?
I would start with Flourish Comp once a week. After 3-4 weeks, if the plants seem to be struggling, a second dose can be used. Observation is the key, and after awhile you begin to see this and that.

I wouldn't worry about the water movement. On the Life-Glo tube, if you can afford it, I wold replace it every 12 months. Some authors suggest the newer T8 tubes can last up to three years, but I am not convinced. I had my last tubes in for about 18 months when I started having algae issues in each of the tanks with these tubes. I replaced them all, and the algae stopped increasing within a week. I believe this was a case where the tubes' intensity had simply weakened enough that the plants could no longer fully utilize the light. As a fluorescent tube lights, the phosphors inside literally burn, and the intensity weakens as the tube burns. It can be quite significant. The old T12 tubes used to lose close to half their initial intensity within 3-4 months, and replacement every six months was recommended. T8 tubes are made more efficiently.

As for other plants, I always recommend it but there really is not a much better plant for the substrate than pygmy chain sword. Dwarf Sagittaria is similar, but for me much slower growing. Dwarf sword would also be nice, to add a darker green, just one or two. When/if you move the Vallisneria, keep it to the sides or back, as it will spread across the substrate quickly and its height can vary.

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Old 02-08-2012, 06:10 PM   #17
 
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Great thanks!

it is hard to see from the pic but I do have pygmy chain sword. It has spread nicely but is not all in the best of shape because I did slack off for some time, that’s why i decided to do a revamp.

Now that I think about it, the bulb is from the end of July 2011 so I should be ok for a few more months.. If I decide to go back to this store during their sale in two weeks I think it may be 30% off supplies and I will get a new bulb then. I think I may add some more chili rasbora too as they will be on sale, and im sure adding them = very minimal bioload.

I think I have a better aquascape in my head based on your suggestions and what I said in my last post. So I will change things around and try to get some more plants in a few weeks during that sale.
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