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Old 11-04-2010, 03:43 AM   #51
 
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well i cant actually test my water, but i know that my softener system takes out most of the hardness for sure since i refill the salt all the time >.<. I heard that crushed coral sometimes has things absorbed in it like salt that can be bad for a freshwater tank..? The tank i plant to set up soon is a 1.5g betta tank using soil and lots of plants, also sorta for the low-tech aquascape contest, but the tanks modded so i think i might be disqualified from that. I want the hardness cuz i want to introduce trumpets to the tank to help turn the soil and keep it clean. I figured i could buy a box of chalk and crush up ~1/3 of 1/4 of a stick and mix it into the soil so itll dissolve somewhat faster and most of the calcium will stay under the sand layer for the snails and plants.
Perhaps if you were to use water from outside faucet that is not hooked up to the softener system or use water from someone who does not use softener system, you would not need to add anything to the tank. Some water softeners remove the calcium and magnesium and replace these with sodium salts.
Domestic water softeners do remove calcium and magnesium which causes deposits in sinks and tubs and on fixtures ,but often times the outside faucet that folks use to water the grass is not hooked up to the softener system and the water would have the hardness you desire. You would only need to heat it before use and add dechlorinator.
In any event You really should use a test kit for pH,GH,KH and if you are going to use substance such as chalk . or other water altering substances you should do it in separate conatiner and test after a day to see what effect it has on the water rather than adding substances to a tank holding fish. This way, you can be sure and make up the correct amount each time you need to do a water change and fishes are not negatively affected by sudden change in water chemisrty.
Not trying to be negative or combative, but rather maybe help you to make things easier. The LESS you addd to the water or aquarium, the better for fishes and easier for you.

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Old 11-04-2010, 09:21 AM   #52
 
Can use outside water, all the water is hooked to this system, the only water that is not is the sprinkler system and i dont think waking up at 3am and chasing that oscillating spray is a good idea... although it does sound like a lot of fun..

Yea i probably should get a test kit... I was really just hoping for a quick fix to get calcium to my snails. Do calcium pills like caltrate work?
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:37 AM   #53
 
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I agree chaseing the sprinlers at 3 am does sound like fun but your neighbors might think your crazy. LOL Do you have a friend/family member that might let you catch water at there house then you could use it for your tank?
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:05 PM   #54
 
For my smaller tanks im sure i could ask my neighbors but myy main tank is 46g and it would be very inconvenient for them if i had to run back and forth changing water for my fishtank each week, esp since i change ~7-10g at a time and my clean water carrier is a 1 gallon spring water bottle... my 3g bucket i no longer use for putting water in cuz i suspect my cleaning lady to have used it for a mop a few weeks ago
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:27 PM   #55
 
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soooooo this is something not to do.or maybe do do it.

i ordered some plants and snails from Red (amazing quality and got here in 1 day)

i decided to remove some of the plants i had and replace them with the ones i got (i got italian val, corkscrew val, a little java moss,some java fern,some red crypt, andsome wisteria) the 5 gallon was no trouble because nothing has really rooted yet,then i moved to the ten gallon which i have had setup for about a month and a half with RCS ,2 SAE, and a crap load of pond snails,Bad idea,i tried cutting the stem plant i had,worked for the most part.then came to an aponogeton that has grown taller than the ones in my 55 in a shorter amount of time.basically the sand switched places with the dirt.luckily the dirt obsorbed all the water it could and none floated up.

i may endup redoing it in a month,kinda mad at myself.


i was also happy that the italian val had ramshorn snail eggs on it.

i also ordered some mts and ramshorn snails.


Another story about the shipment:

so i place the snails in the tank and went back to planting,about 1.5 mins later i look back and the mts ar gone i knew they dug in the substrate but not that fast.
Glad they arrived healthy. In case you're wondering, I didn't send any val. I sent some dwarf sag (will grow shorter in good light) and Echinodorus var Vesuvius. Also, take a picture of the java moss... I need to double check it.

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-_-" you were the one that said "I accept your challenge" to redknee in that picture thread... lol hes creating his own little challenge for you, me and mikaila with a 50 dollar prize offered to the winner. Theres a bunch of rules and kinda unsure of how its gonna work but im just making a setup for fun and to see if it could be done.

As for the chalk, wouldnt mixing it and then covering ti with sand trap in underneath? I would get the limestone, but it seems like something that needs to be bought by the pound and i dont have a lot of storage space.. chalk or tums seem to be the best choices for me.
Ohh, I have to go check that out... Have a link? Or is it the same one?
I'm not really sure about burying the chalk. It seems to me, that no matter how much chalk you add, the GH will go up by 2-4 points. The more chalk you add, the longer it will last.

If you crush the chalk, it dissolves instantly. I might be able to mail you some limestone if you need...I don't think tums is a good idea.

Oh, and I didn't add a pump after all. I just added some hornwort to oxygenate the water.
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:39 PM   #56
 
Huh I thought it was a val. What's the spirally plant. And what is wrong with the moss?
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:44 PM   #57
 
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I mailed out two packages that day- one had java moss and one had moss-like hornwort balls.

The twisted plant is Echinodorus var Vesuvius-
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Old 11-04-2010, 12:57 PM   #58
 
i think i will try the chalk first see how it goes

the contest rules is on the second to last page, he is limiting us to style the setups according to existing styles he posted. the styles are listed on page 8 i think of the thread. thread title is "this is a pretty tank..."
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:25 PM   #59
 
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I mailed out two packages that day- one had java moss and one had moss-like hornwort balls.

The twisted plant is Echinodorus var Vesuvius-

thats odd because i got a small clump of java moss and some of the hornwort
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Old 11-04-2010, 03:31 PM   #60
 
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Oh, maybe I did mail both. :P
Silly me.
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