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post #41 of 123 Old 11-03-2010, 12:16 PM
Can I just crush the chalk into the soil in the initial setup?

Wont the filter disrupt the sand and soil in a tank that size?
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post #42 of 123 Old 11-03-2010, 12:24 PM
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I have an internal sponge filter in mine for water movement and it does not effect the soil at all its also a 10 gallon.

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Can I just crush the chalk into the soil in the initial setup?
How soft is your water?
If you have soft water, then one of the best options is to add a bit of crushed coral to the substrate under your gravel. Small amounts of agricultural limestone will also work. (Both should be applied at approximately 1.5 teaspoons per 10 gallons)




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Wont the filter disrupt the sand and soil in a tank that size?
It's just a little 10 gallon filter. It shouldn't disturb anything.



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I have an internal sponge filter in mine for water movement and it does not effect the soil at all its also a 10 gallon.
I'll be switching to a sponge soon as well.

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post #44 of 123 Old 11-03-2010, 01:50 PM
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If you would like a recommendation the link below is one of the ones I have and I am really pleased with it so much so that I am planning on replaceing the much larger filters I have in my other 10 gallon tanks with it. I love its small size and amazing power to be so small.
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post #45 of 123 Old 11-03-2010, 02:11 PM
well i cant actually test my water, but i know that my softener system takes out most of the hardness for sure since i refill the salt all the time >.<. I heard that crushed coral sometimes has things absorbed in it like salt that can be bad for a freshwater tank..? The tank i plant to set up soon is a 1.5g betta tank using soil and lots of plants, also sorta for the low-tech aquascape contest, but the tanks modded so i think i might be disqualified from that. I want the hardness cuz i want to introduce trumpets to the tank to help turn the soil and keep it clean. I figured i could buy a box of chalk and crush up ~1/3 of 1/4 of a stick and mix it into the soil so itll dissolve somewhat faster and most of the calcium will stay under the sand layer for the snails and plants.
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If you crush the chalk, it will get suspended in your water without really dissolving.

I bought 4 pounds of crushed agricultural limestone for 4 dollars are a hardware store... 4 pounds will last me forever.

You can also use dolomite gravel...

If you can't get any of those, then I would place broken pieces of chalk in the substrate. You can crush 1 or 2 sticks and add the powder to the soil, but your best bet would be whole pieces of chalk. (They're easy to hide behind plants.)

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post #47 of 123 Old 11-03-2010, 02:34 PM
-_-" you were the one that said "I accept your challenge" to redknee in that picture thread... lol hes creating his own little challenge for you, me and mikaila with a 50 dollar prize offered to the winner. Theres a bunch of rules and kinda unsure of how its gonna work but im just making a setup for fun and to see if it could be done.

As for the chalk, wouldnt mixing it and then covering ti with sand trap in underneath? I would get the limestone, but it seems like something that needs to be bought by the pound and i dont have a lot of storage space.. chalk or tums seem to be the best choices for me.
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post #48 of 123 Old 11-03-2010, 05:35 PM
soooooo this is something not to do.or maybe do do it.

i ordered some plants and snails from Red (amazing quality and got here in 1 day)

i decided to remove some of the plants i had and replace them with the ones i got (i got italian val, corkscrew val, a little java moss,some java fern,some red crypt, andsome wisteria) the 5 gallon was no trouble because nothing has really rooted yet,then i moved to the ten gallon which i have had setup for about a month and a half with RCS ,2 SAE, and a crap load of pond snails,Bad idea,i tried cutting the stem plant i had,worked for the most part.then came to an aponogeton that has grown taller than the ones in my 55 in a shorter amount of time.basically the sand switched places with the dirt.luckily the dirt obsorbed all the water it could and none floated up.

i may endup redoing it in a month,kinda mad at myself.


i was also happy that the italian val had ramshorn snail eggs on it.

i also ordered some mts and ramshorn snails.


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so i place the snails in the tank and went back to planting,about 1.5 mins later i look back and the mts ar gone i knew they dug in the substrate but not that fast.

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LOL yes they are fast I got some from Aunt Kymmie and as soon as they were in the tank they started moving around and digging in.

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If you would like a recommendation the link below is one of the ones I have and I am really pleased with it so much so that I am planning on replaceing the much larger filters I have in my other 10 gallon tanks with it. I love its small size and amazing power to be so small.
Cascade Internal Filter
This is good to know, I think I'll be returning my whisper 20i for a sponge filter...
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