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Guide to setting up a Soil substrate planted tank
Old 10-12-2010, 10:41 AM   #91
 
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Hmm. Looking at it, it does look a bit thick... It should be ok though.

If you have ammonia reading, you may not be getting enough light. Soil tanks can take a little while to establish... One of the key things though, if that as long as you don't have fish, don't do anything.

Let the plants grow. If the water turns green, ignore it. (Hope you have some fast growers. If not add some. I see hygro difformis in there.) Eventually the tank will stabilise, and ammonia will disappear.

Don't prune the plants for a while either.

It looks like you have a lot of stem plants... Is that Vallisneria?
I'd move them closer to the back... The crypt is good where it is.

I would ignore it as much as possible. The filter you have running- is it splashing at all? You need to conserve your precious CO2.

My plants are coming in soon.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:08 AM   #92
 
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The filter is internal and does not splash at all. Yes that is a Vall but it is only going to be in the tank until it grows some then I am going to move it to my 45 gallon tank which is very tall. Here is a list of the plants that are in there when I took the picture I had not added the Java Moss yet but since I did not find a piece of driftwood I liked at the LFS I decided to just put it behind the rock formation. I also added a plant I do not know the name of maybe you can tell me what it is it did not have the name tag they normally come with. I will attach a picture. The first day there was ammonia and nitrate but yesterday and today when I check the water everything came back at 0 ppm. Should I
poke the soil or not there was some confusion on if I should or not since it is the organice miracle grow. I will have some MTS later this week to go in there as well as some Red Cherry Shrimp that Aunt Kimmie is going to send me.
Heres the plant lis:
Java Moss – golf ball size portion
Spiral Val – 3 individual plants
Water lettuce – 3 plants
Wisteria – one 10 inch bushy stem
Stargrass – 5 stems
ludwigia brevipes – 5 stems
Ambulia – 5 stems
Rotala rotundafolia – 5 stems

And here is the plant I don't know:

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Old 10-12-2010, 11:19 AM   #93
 
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It stabilised fast. :)

Normally I'd say poke it... but you don't have much gravel.. Try to see if you can poke it without making a mess.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:26 AM   #94
 
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I think haveing so many plants may have helped. I have more gravel I can add if you think I need to. I moved one of the plants and it made a little mess so I am sure if I try to poke it it will probably make a mess.
Do you know what the mystery plant is? I like it and would like to try and order some for my other tanks.

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Old 10-12-2010, 11:29 AM   #95
 
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You have an inch of gravel, right?

As long as you have an inch, you should be ok... Poke it. (softly force the stick all the way to the bottom, and pull it out slowly. Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes or so to poke it, but dont rush. Also, don't poke around the plants.)

When I saw the picture before, I was on a laptop with a pretty small screen... That thick of a substrate bothers me a little bit...

You say you have 2 inches of potting soil and 1 inch of gravel? 2 inches shouldn't be too much... but it's cutting it a little close since you don't have any swordplants or deep-rooted plants.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:42 AM   #96
 
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Its not level the highest spot is about 2 inches soil with an inch of gravel on top. It goes from 1 inch to about 2 inches of soil with an inch of gravel on top. Should I add more gravel? And do you know what the mystery plant is? I could move one of my swords from one of my other tanks if you think that would be a good idea.
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Old 10-12-2010, 11:57 AM   #97
 
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I'm pretty sure the mystery plant is ludwigea, perhaps ludwigea repens.

Looks like the water is clearing up too. Just keep in mind those stem plants are gonna get really tall...
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:03 PM   #98
 
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I looked back at the plant list and noticed the Cryptocoryne Wenditt is missing if I am not mistaken they get pretty good roots some what like the swords am I right? Also as for them getting tall I don't mind I can trim them as need be and put them in other tanks or give them away. I have a 44 gallon that has lots of room still for more plants. ; )
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:05 PM   #99
 
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Crypts do put out roots, but nothing near as deep as echinodorus species..

Also, you have to be careful with trimming in this kind of tank, since most of the filtration is done by the plants. If you cut too much, you can have an ammonia spike.
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Old 10-12-2010, 12:14 PM   #100
 
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Ok I will be careful and only trim them when they start to grow across the top of the tank. Its only going to have shrimp and MTS in it so I don't think there will be much of a bioload. Can you recommend a sword plant that stays small that I can order from sweet aquatics to add to the tank?
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