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post #11 of 17 Old 03-29-2013, 10:27 PM Thread Starter
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It would be cool to set up a symbiotic relationship like that. I'd rather have it be as natural as possible. The only reason I want to use ferts is because it'll help the plants grow, which will help the fish. I want them to be happy in their little home.

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post #12 of 17 Old 03-29-2013, 10:29 PM
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ferts and a inorganic source of carbon are two totally seperate things, with enough plants you could essentally have as many fish in the tank as you want, not saying its adviseable but is able to be supported by plants
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post #13 of 17 Old 03-29-2013, 10:39 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the awesome advice. I'll moniter the progress without excel. Maybe make a thread for it. That's what I love about this hobby. Everyone is so supportive when someone needs help. This is a great forum.
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good talking with ya hope it all turns out for you!
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post #15 of 17 Old 03-30-2013, 02:52 AM
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fish DO crank out CO2 XD although "crank out" is kind of misleading, seeing they don't really produce as much as "crank out" implies :P what I mean is that they take in oxygen and expel CO2 just like any other animal XD
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As I mentioned in another thread yesterday, natural CO2 occurs in the aquarium in greater quantity than many realize. Fish, plants and some bacteria respire continually (24/7) and this releases CO2 into the water. But the greater amount occurs from the breakdown of organics by bacteria.

The aim is to create a balance between light (intensity and duration are both important), CO2 and other nutrients. Those of us who have "natural" planted tanks, meaning no added CO2, know that it may take a few weeks to find that balance. And of course, there are some plants that will not survive in the moderate light intensity and without diffused CO2 to balance; but a majority will. The type of plants and the expected growth rate wanted by the aquarist will determine which method is best suited.

I have always preferred less intervention in my fish tanks, allowing nature to do most of the work. Some plants thrive, a few don't; I use what works. The photos below are just two examples of what is possible with this "natural" approach; these tanks have no CO2 addition by any method, relying totally on what occurs naturally.

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The aquarist is one who must learn the ways of the biologist, the chemist, and the veterinarian. [unknown source]

Something we all need to remember: The fish you've acquired was quite happy not being owned by you, minding its own business. If youíre going to take it under your wing then youíre responsible for it. Every aspect of its life is under your control, from water quality and temperature to swimming space. [Nathan Hill in PFK]
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Amazing, Byron. I just hope my tanks will be anywhere near that lush.

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