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Old 10-14-2013, 02:21 PM   #11
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one of my LFS has lush forests of BBA in all their tanks. The tanks are in a little dimly lit room with no tank lights XD I've been convinced that light levels have nothing to do with BBA. BBA is a red algae, the same with staghorn algae, From what I understand they behave very differently from green algae or diatoms.


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Old 10-14-2013, 03:51 PM   #12
 
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There is a LFS near me that is the same way Ao.

In those case I believe its different. They all have filtration systems that connect all the tanks together. So there is very lil Co2 in the water or a fluctuations of it (another cause of BBA.) plus lil to no ferts so the low light could still be too much for those situations (since they are on all day). That is just a theory of mine and probably way off bases but it makes sense to me.
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Old 10-14-2013, 03:56 PM   #13
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Ah~ that could be a reason :D
I like to think the tanks are well fertilized due to the excessive stocking LFS tends to have~ I believe their tanks are running on separate systems, but I'll take a closer look next time and confirm for the sake of your theory :D


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Old 10-14-2013, 04:09 PM   #14
 
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I know mine LFS has a filtration system for all their freshwater tanks instead of each tank having its own filter. As I have been in the back room to see it. Yours may not. If they don't then it could be that the waste is just feeding the algae if there is no plants in the tanks. Algae will be more then happy to thrive in these conditions. Remember this is just me thinking out loud and I am probably way off. LoL
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:04 PM   #15
 
In terms of the possible brush algae, I'm attaching a picture of the algae on my wisteria. You can see my pitiful banana plant in the background. If there is any particular way to handle it, let me know.

Beyond the plants, my stock is:
5 Platys
8 Platy fry
8 Ghost Shrimp (you guys make shrimp keeping look sexy, so I wanted a trial before I sunk any money into it)
1 Pleco

So, is the big take-home advice to be had in regards to my floating plants is check my fertilizers? I don't want to screw up on my frogbit. Is the flow concern brought up by KPainter something that warrants further investigation and a DIY solution?
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Old 10-14-2013, 07:34 PM   #16
 
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Sorry Anduie for getting off subject in your thread. :(

Fertilizer is going to help all your plants. As for the Wisteria is there any section of it that doesn't have algae on it? Like the top portion of the plant? If so I would cut it there and plant that part in the gravel and throw the other part away. This how you will have to trim it anyways when it does start to grow. Is the way for all stems.

The flow/current issue with your Frogbit is a concern if it is a lot. Most floater especially Frogbit and Dwarf Water Lettuce in my experience do not like to moved around alot.
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:34 PM   #17
 
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Sorry Anduie for getting off subject in your thread. :(
Quite alright. It was a general question, really. I do admit I have a brownthumb and any suggestions help.

So, how would I mitigate the flow issue? Has anyone done this before without the solution being "change the entire filtration system?"
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Old 10-14-2013, 08:46 PM   #18
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I know you can get rid of the bba by taking the plants out and giving them a bleach dip. I've never used the method, so I'm really cannot instruct you on how to do it :(

You can also try to float all your stems and see if they can combat the BBA with some extra growth as they will be able to have an advantage being closer to the light and atmospheric CO2. My method of baffling filters, is to get saran wrap (or in your case you might want to cut up a ziplock bag or some other stronger plastic). I then wrap this around the intake and using a needle, I would poke as many holes as I need for water flow. once the hob starts running, the plastic will immediately adhere to the intake tube. you can also use a sponge to acheive similar results :)
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:13 PM   #19
 
Sorry, I'm hearing something that I'm not used to hearing and runs a little contrary to what I'm used to doing professionally and what I've heard for a good portion of my life.

Are you saying that I should inhibit the uptake rather than attempt to redirect or slow the flow?

Would this limit the filtration capacity?
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Old 10-14-2013, 09:32 PM   #20
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It certainly will! :) I don't know anything about filters or filtration because I've been using plants as a primary filtration source for as long as I remember. It all started when I was in highschool and knew nothing about keeping fish. I remember having a banana plant and an elodea in a very small candle holder with a two feeder mosquito fish. They lasted a while and even gave birth. After I learnt about proper fish keeping years later, I understood that what I did was fairly cruel, but the ability to create a mini eco system with plants never cease to amaze me ^_^

I have never cycled a tank in my life! The only reason filters exist for me is to provide some water flow in my tanks, it is purely aesthetic. ^_^ whatever amount of filtration you are cutting down, may be compensated by plant growth. although conditions will vary from tanks to tank. it is always adviseable to test your water frequently until you are sure the tank has stabilized :) you have floaters that should be growing like a weed! and if given the chance, they certainly will :)
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