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Old 03-27-2010, 11:05 AM   #11
 
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Yes, thanks. I really need to see what's available here now I know that it's possible.

BUT

I've just been reading a thread where your fish caught ich off some plants you bought. Is it likely that I'd give my fish ich if I got a plant?
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Old 03-27-2010, 11:35 AM   #12
 
I added my plants after the fish were in and there was no problem. Yes, they were stress a bit with the new plants but they recovered within a day. As for Ich i cannot answer that one.
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Old 03-27-2010, 06:40 PM   #13
 
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Thanks karjean. I'm not sure it's a good thing for me doing too much board reading of horror stories. I'm sure lots of people add plants or fish without getting any disease or having all of their fish die.
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Old 03-28-2010, 10:16 AM   #14
 
Yes you are right, htere is a lot of good information but you have to take a lot with a stride. If they lost some fishes, i am assuming there is probably more to the story.
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Old 03-28-2010, 07:45 PM   #15
 
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In 20 years I don't think I've ever introduced fish disease with plants, but anything is possible. But less likely than adding new fish would be.

Any stem plant will grow floating, so that is your best and cheapest option. Some true floating plants can be fussy over nutrients and light, but stem plants generally thrive on the surface. Assuming the light is OK (I also have no idea what those are) you may need a liquid fertilizer to keep the floating stem plants growing. They will obtain CO2 from the air so that is not an issue with floating plants.
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Old 03-28-2010, 08:33 PM   #16
 
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thanks

I didn't know about the stem plants being used as floaters, but I saw that foxtail floating and it got me thinking. I figured it would be easy to fish out if it died but wasn't sure whether you needed to get a whole lot of plants to be successful. They've got some really nice plants at one shop I go to. If I can choose one that's in a pot, I'm sure I'll be able to get something good.

Another question: should I get it now while the tank is cycling or wait until it is established? (I know plants use ammonia and stuff, but would a new plant trying to find its feet mess up the cycle or throw things out of whack?)
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Old 03-28-2010, 10:47 PM   #17
 
I do not hink it really matters, the minerals are still in the water fo the plants. It looks like a lot of people did put the plants right away. I did put mine about 5 weeks after i started the tank with the fishes in.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:48 PM   #18
 
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I always plant on day one and add fish. In a well-planted tank there is no cycle ever, the plants assimilate the ammonia/ammonium and very little is left for nitrosomonazs bacteria. Planted aquaria have minimal nitrifying bacteria because the plants are faster at grabbing the ammonia/ammonium.

However, one plant does not equate to "well-planted." But I would still add the plant now, nothing will be gained by not.
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Old 03-29-2010, 09:12 PM   #19
 
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But I would still add the plant now, nothing will be gained by not.
Thanks. Another excuse to go to the shop. They'll start charging me rent soon - I spend so much time there.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:41 AM   #20
 
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Ok, so I've bought my plant. The trouble is, the young people in the shop had absolutely no clue what it is, so I need to do some scouting around online to try to find out for myself (she did say it was easy to grow, we shall see about that!). I got several stems in the little pot so I planted a couple (in both tanks), and left one floating. The experiment begins....

ETA: Well, that wasn't too hard. It looks just like the pennywort that was recommended above. It looks like there are a couple of different plants commonly called pennywort, so presumably whichever this one is is ok to sell and isn't the prohibited one. It's very nice, anyway. Thanks for the suggestion!

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