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Old 07-07-2008, 06:15 PM   #11
 
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I agree with herefishy that co2 is an extremely helpful tool in preventing algae growth. If you have a high light tank, your plants will also require a lot of fertilizer and co2. It's easy to add more ferts, but it can be rather difficult to stock the tank to produce enough co2.

For instance, I have a 10G heavily planted tank with a 40 watt compact florescent light. I'm not even sure it would be possible to fit enough fish in there to provide the co2 required by this many fast growing, high light plants.

Also, I'm not interested in adding more fish. The tank currently houses a single C. Lorteti and that's it. Before he was in my possession he terrorized a myriad of bottom dwellers, a small PIKE and also killed his two female tankmates (in a 30 gallon heavily decorated). Clearly this fish cannot live with other fish in a size tank I am prepared to provide for him. While yes, the tank is not at full bioload capacity, I would consider it fully and properly stocked, as territoriality must be taken into account.

I also agree that a fully automated system would be overkill. I highly recommend using DIY co2, as it is cheaper and won't be capable of producing a crazy excess of co2.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:57 PM   #12
 
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I agree

I agree with your statement. Sine there was so additional tank info, I had to assume that additional fish could be added. I just was advising against a full injection CO2 system, which would be overkill. Flourish Excel would do the job in my opinion.[/list]
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:42 PM   #13
 
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thanks for the info :D ive given up the idea of buying the system as its a waste of money. however for the diy co2 system i dont know what i can use to put it into the water as ive heard that airstones dont help and waste the co2 as the bubbles dont dissolve and just rise to the top, my lfs is small and doesnt all get stock so i cant find a diffuser, and i cant buy online.'

yea klosxe, i know the algae will still be there but my tank was green before i cleaned it and so im paranoid about having that problem again (i scraped alot off every week and it was stil bad) :D
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Old 07-08-2008, 10:41 AM   #14
 
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Reactor

I think you are going in the right direction with DIY CO2. I am recommending that you look into CO2 reactors/diffusers. All they do is provide a way for the CO2 to dissolve into the water. Dr.Foster &Smith have a pretty good selection for reactors that can be hooked up to basic airline tubing; which is what I assume that you will be using in your DIY CO2. I think that if your local store doesn't carry any diffusers, and you can't buy online, I think that your best bet would be an airstone. It won't be as effective as a diffuser, but it should add SOME CO2 into the tank. I once tried DIY CO2 in one of my 20 Gallon tanks for fun, using an airstone as the diffusing agent. I agree with your idea that the airstone bubbles will just rise to the surface, and not dissolve in the water as much as they could, reducing their overall effectiveness in this application. Hope your DIY works out. :)
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Old 07-09-2008, 02:03 AM   #15
 
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thanks :D i might have found a company that will ship to where i am living, so i will order two diffusers (in case one breaks) and possibly see if i cant get some plants that i want over here (do you think plants will survive a long journey ). thanks again everyone :D
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Old 07-09-2008, 03:07 PM   #16
 
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No problem. Help is what a forum is for. :)
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Old 07-09-2008, 05:03 PM   #17
 
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Your plants will do fine if they are being shipped. If you are in the lower 48 states you can get your plants shipped from anywhere else in the lower 48, Cannada, and a buch of other places no problem. :)
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:09 PM   #18
 
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i dont live in america rather 14ish hours away, i can try get other plants from my lfs but i really want dwarf hairgrass (cant get it at my lfs), i can try though :D. i also bought some stuff for the diy co2 and some liquid fertiliser yesterday. thanks again :D
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:38 AM   #19
 
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update: ive had a major algae outbreak. I was away on holiday for two weeks and my brother misunderstood my instructions on the tank lights and kept my 8gallon light on all day, so im going to have to take out all of the plants (most have been taken over by algae) and scrub the sides. i might put in my bristlenose to help, and then move him back to my 29 gallon. uggg :( i hate algae
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:44 AM   #20
 
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Ugh, that stinks! Bleach is the way to go for the plants. 1 pt bleach 19 pts water and soak for about 2 minutes.
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